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Man sentenced to 5 months for Smokies elk poaching

I came across this story link from a RMEF (Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation) newsletter I get and thought I would share it with you guys. What I liked was the sentence the Judge imposed... nailed him! It's the best I've seen anyway, and usually I think these guys get off too easy. Most I've read before don't get near the maximum, usually just a smaller fine and no license for a year or so... which I don't think they care much about anyway? It just never seems enough usually to keep them from doing it in my mind, especially those that do it for money.

I think I read once that if not for poaching, that a given state could issue half as much again in the number of tags to legal hunters. These guys put the hurt on us all for sure. Mad

 

An excerpt-

"Bruce Wayne Cromer Jr., 35, of Stovall, shot and killed a bull elk last November within the national park in Haywood County, court records show. Rangers found the elk dead along the edge of a pasture in the Cataloochee Valley. Cromer pleaded guilty in June.

Cromer on Thursday received a sentence of 150 days imprisonment. In addition, the gun Cromer used to shoot the elk, a Browning .270-caliber rifle autographed by Richard Petty, was ordered by the court to be forfeited to the government and destroyed. Cromer also was ordered to pay $8,384 in restitution to the national park, lost his hunting license for two years and was banned from all national parks for two years."

Read more about it at the link below~ (hope this works, ha?)

 

 

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100716/NEWS/307160033/1258

 

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to easy on him

He should have been fined more than that.  I guess the bull didn’t fit into the CO Samson poaching law.  The law states that there is a minimum fine of $10,000 for any trophy animal.  The law outlines the minimums for what is a trophy.  I think in CO if they want to they can take any vehicle used during the crime too.  If you ask me the guy got off easy.

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to easy on him

I wouldn't argue that point, but still the best I've read or remember about anyway.

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Forfeited & Destroyed?

Love the sentence & the fine. Can someone explain destroying the rifle? I'm not a big Petty fan or even a big Nascar fan but I wouldn't be surprised if the rifle cuoldn't fetch a fair price at auction.  Donate the $ to RMEF, habitat improvements, hunter education, the list of worthy recipients is endless. Doesn't make any sense. If they had confiscated an ATV or expensive spotting scope would they have been destroyed also?

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Forfeited & Destroyed?

I had that thought myself too when I read that. Not a clue what it would be worth and all, but maybe the Game and Fish department there could have raffled it off or something to help with costs.

I used to go to auctions here that the police department had occasionally of confiscated weapons. You could get some nice stuff at times, and it helped the department buy equipment etc. they needed; besides being easier on the taxpayers wallet. I still have a nice Win. Model 12 I got one year for peanuts really.

Then one year all the "PC" and/or anti-gun types made them stop, bad press maybe, I don't know, and now they are all destroyed actually costing the city money. Dumb, and a total waste...

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Actually I think for shooting

Actually I think for shooting an animal in a national park he got off pretty easy.  I he should have lost his hunting privlidges for longer than that and taken his truck or ATV.

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Actually I think for shooting

Works for me...

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I know some people may not

I know some people may not like my post and thats fine. I think his sentence should have been a 10 year hunting ban, with a $1000 a year fine and classes of somekind to help TEACH this guy what he did IS, WAS and WILL always be wrong. Then after the 10yrs he should have to go thru an appealls process to have his hunting privelages returned. Then if the return criteria is not met at the end of the 10yrs it adds 5yrs more. JMHO

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I love the post

I think all poachers should have their hunting privileges taken away for life.  Harsher punishments may make those guys think twice before pulling the trigger

 

 

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I know some people may not

That works for me too... even better.

It seems to me that everybody agrees that most punishments are not enough. This just happens to be one of the better ones I've seen for poaching.

Anybody know of worse ones?

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If memory serves me right

If memory serves me right when that poacher SHOT and killed Samson( BIG TROPHY BULL ELK) here in Estes Park, Co I believe the state took his hunting privelages for life. Can anybody from Co confirm or deny this for us PLEASE!

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