i wandering if i can get some help my doughter is 11 years old and i am looking for a good youth shotgun for her. Last year i had her shoot a New england 20 gauge but it was just a little to heavy for her. Should i let her shoot 20 gauge with a full choke or a 12 with a modified. I have tried to use a lighter load like a six shot and she has shot at 2 birds and it is not even phasing the birds but i don't want to go to big and shy her away from a gun because it kicks to bad. what is a good load for her to shoot and still have a good range.
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Thu, 2011-03-03 20:54
looking for a youth shotgun
Fri, 2011-03-04 10:05#1
My son is not old enough to
My son is not old enough to hunt yet, so I have not seriously looke dinto this at this time.
However, I found this link, which has a big list of shotguns and rifles that are available for youth, broken down by manufacturer.
It looks pretty nice, even listing the weight, length, and capacity.
Fri, 2011-03-04 11:45#2
I picked up a Mossberg Super
I picked up a Mossberg Super Bantam 20 ga. youth pump shotgun last year for my nephews. I added a limbsaver recoil pad to help with the kick, and they seem to like it just fine. The 1st one to shoot it was my scrawny little 6 yr. old nephew (50#) and he didnt even blink at it...just wanted to see all the holes in the target, lol.
However, all that I've had them shoot so far are lighter loads, but will be putting a turkey load in for them to try soon. 2 3/4 inch, as I will stay away from the magnum loads. If they are mildly turned off by the recoil from those loads they will go back to shooting the light ones.....til we go hunting and I sneak one in the chamber. With the adrenaline rush and a turkey in front of them they'll never know::whistling:
If the recoil really bothers them.....then they will stay on light loads and will have to wait a while before they hit the woods.
I toyed with the idea of just getting a single shot, but was more worried about the recoil from them since they tend to rattle your fillings.
As far as a good load, you're gonna have to try a few different ones and see what patterns best out of that particular gun. You could have a her shoot both the 12 and 20 and see what she prefers.....(not sure what the 12 gauge is, if its a S.S. stick with the 20) Let her decide what she's comfortable with and go from there. The lighter the load you go with....the closer you need to have them.
Fri, 2011-03-04 13:35#3
copenhagen - you might check
copenhagen - you might check out the Remington 870 Express Youth Synthetic Combo (say that three times real fast)! It's a 20-gauge pump with a 20 gauge with a 21 inch vented rib shotgun barrel and a 20 inch rifled barrel for slugs. It has an adjustable length of pull to comenate for her growing years, and it's even available in pink camo! Now, that's a cool shotgun for a girl!
Good Luck - and kudos for getting your kids invloved in shooting and hunting.
Fri, 2011-03-04 17:27#4
I would say that staying with
I would say that staying with the 20 guage is a better idea for now in one of the suggestions the other guys offered.
I would think it wasn't that the birds were not phased from the 6 shot but that she's still a little nervous shooting it and missed them clean. Get a good 20 that she is comfortable with and learns to shoot well and she will be knocking them down regular.
Fri, 2011-03-04 18:25#5
Shooting a turkey in the
Shooting a turkey in the head, and that's where they should be shot, requires a full choke or a turkey choke for a very tight pattern and unless the bird is in awful close a light load is not going to do the trick. It takes a good load at any distance to break bones in the neck or you'll need to get lucky with a pellet in the head. You also need to pattern the gun with loads to see what shoots the tightest and then find the maximum distance to keep a dozen or more pellets in the head/neck zone. Normally, unless you go to these new dedicated turkey guns and 3" or 3 1/2" shells, you should keep all shots under 40 yards.
Fri, 2011-03-04 19:29#6
Get a 20 Gauge Semi Auto
If you can afford it, I'd recommend a semi auto and definitely in 20 gauge. My pick for an auto loader isn't for a fast second (or third or forth....) shot but for the reduction in recoil.
An ounce of 4 or 6 shot in a 20 gauge with an improved cylinder or modified choke will kill any pheasant, chuckar or forest grouse within 35 yards and a 3/4 oz load of 7.5's will dump quail right now. Consistantly hitting past 35 yards is asking too much from a new shotgun shooter (hell, it's asking too much from me & I've been hunting birds since the early 70's). It'll also take care of decoyed or jump shooting ducks using steel 2's or heavy shot 4's. A tightly choked load of buffered 4, 5 or 6 shot will also kill a turkey with a head shot as far out as the particular gun/load combination will allow, easily to 30 yards.
A 20 gauge might not make the grade for late season long shots on pheasant or pass shooting ducks (forget about long range geese) but these are games for seasoned and skilled shotgunners. For everything else (including properly set up slug guns for deer) a good semi auto 20 will get the job done.
Fri, 2011-03-04 19:44#7
Youth Turkey Gun
When my son was 11 years old I bought him a Reminton 870 Youth 20 ga. These guns are a perfect fit for kids. Add a good recoil pad, turkey choke and a quality fiber optic ring sight. Have the child practice with low brass #6 loads at instant reveal turkey pattern targets. Use a monopod that sticks in the ground if necessary. Pattern the gun yourself with turkey loads to get the best combination and so the child does not get recoil shy. They will never notice the 3" mag when they shoot at real turkey. My sons gun is devastating on toms out to 35 yds and has accounted for his harvesting many turkeys. Use a pop-up blind the first few times, especially for kids that can't keep still, they mask movement well. Try a decoy at 20 yds and a stick stuck in the ground at 30 yds for range reference. Check for a local NTFW chapter, many have a youth program they call Jakes Events. Good luck.