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looking for support to change spring hunting hours for turke

As I was reading the new big game draft, one of the striking abscent items in regards to turkey management was the decision to switch to an all day spring turkey hunt option. So, while at the show this weekend, I asked Tom Decker from the dept. the question of why won't the department look at switching to an all day hunt? for every potential problem he raised, i had a response that is documented by biologists exactly opposite. So, he recommended that i speak with Laroche. I bit my tongue, and spoke with Laroche. Had the same discussion with him, same counter-points. Finally, out of frustration i believe, he directly told me " There is no biological reason to not go to an all day spring hunt. If you can draw up a petition, and give it to the board, we can go from there." Which is just what I wanted to hear. I then shot over to the H.A.T. booth, where Ed Gallo, who i know a little, was manning the booth, and Mike Lefebre, ex president of the Vt NWTF chapter was there also. I repeated to Ed what Wayne had said, and told me exactly what to do. All I need to do is draw up a very concise document, and present it to the board with only 25 names. I then spoke last night with the new state NWTF president. Although he doesnt necessarily support it, if i e-mail him this petition, he said he will have it at each banquet that he goes to this winter/spring. While it will take some work, I think this is something that we can change. So I am asking everyone here, would you support changing the hours from noon until say six in the evening for spring turkey hunting? Please show your support/ feelings on the subject here. If you do support this, and would like to go on record for the switch, when i draw this up this week, i will send you a copy. You will need to print, sign, and send your support to me. After the banquet season I will present to the board all signed petitions that I have. They then have to respond to them. And then the games will start with the state. Thanks for the time and any support,
Pat
p.s., i did draw up the petition, and it is now in a few areas of the state. if you dont see it, and want to support this, drop me an e-mail at vtbuckrulrss@aol.com

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Re: looking for support to change spring hunting hours for turke

I like hunting until noon. I din't mind leaving the woods for lunch and not feeling obligated to continue hunting I can spend the afternoon fishing and not feeling guilty.

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Re: looking for support to change spring hunting hours for turke

I DO NOT support the hunting past noon :rotest1 . Give them a chance, I say!!!! Vermont has too many hunters for our huntable land and our population of deer and turkeys. If your happy shooting small game /jakes then e-mail me and I can tag you out by noon. Are you and most other hunters tagging out season after season on mature animals? 'uhh no'. Lets not keep them pounded into infancy like we do our deer herd.Do Vermont hunters a favor and rip that thing up ......... sad

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Re: looking for support to change spring hunting hours for turke

Need to hear some of the reasons........who it benefits? Someone other than ; the hunter who doesn't do his homework and hates getting up early! I get my bird in the fall every Thanksgiving!

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Re: looking for support to change spring hunting hours for turke

there are actually quite a few reasons for extending the spring season, all of it backed up by reports written by biologists. one of the reasons to have it extended is that contrary to popular belief, recent studies have shown that there is not a significant impact to nesting hens; we wont disturb them enough to cause them to leave the nest for good. safety actually improves; with more hours to hunt, hunting pressure is decreased by spreading out the pressure of everyone being in the same spot at the same time. older, bigger birds. with more time to hunt, this allows the hunter the chance to pass on the younger birds, and opt for a more mature bird. ontario discovered this. the percentage of jakes in their harvest dropped 13% when they went to an all day hunt. more afternoon hours allows those unable to be out in the woods early because of commitments to try for, or take up, the sport of turkey huntin. more involvement by young unters. this will occur because it wiil give young hunters the chance to pursue them after school. also, the spring time harvest is not what dictates the size of our population, most of the breedinf occurs during the month of May. it is dictated by the fall season. the more that you send into the winter, the more that you have coming out of it. turkeys are not monogamous; one bird can inseminate many. a well established population can be harvested by as much as thirty percent per year, and can recoup that harvest with the spring hatch. ask a biologist like i did, there are northern states that go all day in the spring, such as wisconsin and michigan, and the province of ontario, and they have found that there have been no problems extending the hours.

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