Thanks for the offer MMC! I might just do that....
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Thu, 2011-10-20 23:02#12
Hey MMC - If she looks like a
Hey MMC -
If she looks like a bunny, I think its entirely proper and appropriate to give her a hug
Fri, 2011-10-21 06:42#13
Vermonster, a few other
Vermonster, a few other things to think about. Are you looking for meat or antlers? Have you concidered a doe tag for deer? Also since you are planning OTC for elk concider looking at left over tags for deer if you do not draw. Putting in for the draw is better but as stated not 100% either. Not sure if you ever hunted antelope in Wyoming with your dad but that is a great hunt and usually tags are easy to get both buck and does. The rest of the guys are right on the money about the spread sheets as those will help for sure.
Fri, 2011-10-21 08:46#14
I have thought about the
I have thought about the antelope, but if he is coming out here, but what I like about Colorado is that I can get tags for, and hunt 2 or 3 different species at once. I don't think I want my "dream" hunt with my Dad to be limited to just a speedgoat. I will hunt them one day, however.
As for meat or antler, well, I primarily hunt for the meat, but I want to be able to shoot a trophy critter if I see one. I don't want to get a doe, and then have a nice 7x7 come walking by and not be able to shoot it. The either sex tags would be the way to go, that way I could salvage some meat the last day or 2 if I had to. However, with a bull tag, I would shoot a 4x4 or a 7x7, does not matter. For deer, a forkhorn or a 5x5, same thing.
Sun, 2011-10-23 18:02#15
Sorry for the delay I was out
Sorry for the delay I was out scouting. Saw nothing fresh on elk but deer was ok. I see your point about your hunt with your dad. Either sex tags are great but usually take a one ot two to draw. Hunter hit it on the head about points go to the lowest person in a group that applies. Good thing is you still have time to make a good solid decission on what you want to do.
Fri, 2011-10-21 11:13#16
Guys - shouldn't
Guys - shouldn't Ca_Vermonster also set up himself and his Dad as a hunting "group" on each of their draw forms so if one gets the tag pick they both do?
Fri, 2011-10-21 11:17#17
I was wondering that, but I
I was wondering that, but I think that we would be counted as zero points, correct? Don't they go with the lowest point total of the people in your group, or am I thinking of another state?
Fri, 2011-10-21 14:21#18
That's right if you apply
That's right if you apply together you will be reduced to the zero preference points that he has. And as far as the success numbers go it really varies I think I only know of a few guys that really hold out for the trophies but it would sway things a little. Like for us we have been around 90% on deer for the last 20 years for the whole famil which is far above the average for unit 444 where we hunt. On the other hand when it comes to elk we fall below average as we just don't hunt as hard for them in a normal year.
I think the biggest thing also is what your dad wants the most or is able to handle. I think he would love it out here as a totally different experience as even if hunting great whitetail and getting a big one it would still be similar to what he has always done. I like the new adventure as often as possible. But you know him best as to what his dreams are.
Like my hunt with my dad a couple of weeks ago for elk though it the time enjoyed together nad memories that really make the whole thing come together no matter where you are or what your hunting.
Sun, 2011-10-23 12:42#19
In Oregon when you apply as a group they add up the points of the group then average them out. then it's rounded. .50 goes down and.51 goes up to the next whole number. My dad and brother and I will usually put in as a group and evey time it has worked out. But now we are all trying for trophy units with our points ao we haven't done that in a while. Good luck CA- with what ever you choose to do.
Fri, 2011-10-21 17:49#20
But also isn't there a
But also isn't there a quota for the unit for an out-of-state hunter that also has to be filled? That is why I brought of the "group" hunt.