Heard of any responses to the deer permit changes?
I am a NR non resident hunter to KS and make a trip back home every year to hunt with family. I am surprised at the drastic (my opinion) changes the state has made regarding the regulations for obtaining a deer permit.
I would like to know what everyones opinions (resident and NR) are about the changes and maybe some reasons why the changes were made.
The only thing that I have heard was that some NR abused the doe permits and made illegal buck kills.
Jason, I would agree there has been some "drastic" changes on the regulations this year. My Opinion: You and I both know from hunting here our whole lives, they couldn't continue to give out so many doe permits indefinatley. Sooner or later they have to knock it back down to the way it was when I started (one buck, and optional one doe). I used to hunt in unit 8 and deer population was UNBELIEVABLE!!! There were flat out 100's that would come out of chunks of timber when we would do a big push. Even though most were does, we would end up with a pick-up bed full of does. We had about 15-20 people in our hunting party so there were a lot of shots fired at every push. If you think about it, there were several 15-20party drives going on in unit 8 and if they all had as good of luck as we did, that is a TON of dead does. The following year I went back to hunt with everyone again, and it was astounding the lack of deer. I only hunted one day the second year cause I felt a certain scence of responsibility for the lack of does. I put away my rifle and went back to archery hunting. The willingness over the past 3-4 years to give out doe permits has hurt the deer population in this state. Personally, I'm glad they are tightening up the distribution of tags. I guarantee with the significant influx of NR hunters, there is a lot of them who are shooting Bucks during doe season. Bottom line, it is too easy to get away with it. Anyway, just my thoughts. Would love to hear responce. Take care all!!!!
Kinda surprised me when they told me I'd have to buy the buck tag before the doe this year too. Still alot better than it use to be. I haven't noticed the population being hurt here in unit 13. Course I don't know of any 15-20 party drives going on either. That would definetly dent a population.
I forgot that I posted that message. Thanks for the response.
Since I posted that thread I have had more time to think about the changes and even make an inquiry with the state. I am ok with the changes more so now than before for several reasons. When I called and talked to KPW they were very forthcoming and answered all my questions. They told me that one of the main reasons for the changes was because of an increase in poaching by NR's and the increase in the permit fees was to hire more wardens to help with the poaching. I think the doe change is 1or 2 years too late for some units. I have noticed a significant reduction in the doe population in Unit 4. As a matter of fact last year we saw more bucks than does.
As of now I can still afford the increase permit fees and will do what it takes to save up enough money to ensure that my annual trip to hunt with family happens. For me its all about making the time to hunt with family and if you happen to get lucky while doing it all the better.
I attached a picture of my dad and I with the buck I shot.
Hey man, great deer!!! Your right, anytime you can get together with family and take part in the outdoor sports, ther is nothing else a guy would rather be doing!!! Where are you guys hunting at in KS? I'm around the Manhattan Area. I'll be in the stand for the first time this year this weekend hoping to get a crack at the decent 150 buck I saw on Tues. night. Cross your fingers for me!!!
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