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I was wondering, why do so many people go out and buy heavy recoiling cartridges with the idea that they can just use after market products to tame the recoil. Instead of the 300 super mag, why not a 30-06? Or instead of a 7mm super mag, why not a 7-08, 7x57 or 280 rem?

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Good question. I just don't "get" the whole short mag, SSM, UM etc. craze.

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I think part of the answer to your question lies in the hype that gun writers spew when any new cartridge/gun is announced by the firearms manufactures. Too many gun writers are shills for the firearms industry. I also think that too many people think that some "super duper" new magnum will make up for the lack of practice because of their busy life styles. They do not have time to learn to hunt and shoot, so they try to compensate with a magnun they usually can not shoot well because of excessive recoil. Hence the purchase of after market devices to tame recoil.
I have put muzzle breaks on many of my guns, not because they are magnums but becasue of shoulder injuries that make even modest recoil painful.

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I don't buy rifles based on recoil. I buy based on what I need it to do. So I chose my .300 WSM because I wanted more power for bigger animals.

One thing I would like to point out is that the .300 has made me much more accuate with my .308. Initially, the .300 really seemed to rattle my teeth. But as I gained experience with it, I became more comfortable. Then when I pulled the .308 out of the cabinet and took it to the range, I shot a lot better because the recoil seemed a lot less than what it used to before I got the .300.

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I have a .30-06. Shot plenty of game with it. Why do people hunt grouse with a 12 or 20 gauge when all you need is a .410 bore?

I've shot everything from a .177 air rifle to a .50 BMG.

I replaced my .30-06 with a 7mmRM for flatter trajectory over longer ranges but with less recoil than a .300 WM. No aftermarket reducers.

Now I'm looking at a .338 EDGE or a .338 Allen Mag. Why? Longer range.

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Don't we have to consider the area your predominant hunting ground is?
For instance up in my neck of the woods there are no long range opportunities. We have bush inside the bush. Most Moose and Bear are shot in the 50 to 100 meter/yard range.
To all the "New and Improved" cartridges coming up..... How many NEW Shooters/Hunters are in the pipe?? Most new hunters are the sons and grandsons of existing hunters and most likely the father/grandfather is passing the gun down to the next generation. If there wouldn't be any new cartridge and gun configurations coming up, the would be only a few NEW sales of firearms and a lot of manufacturers would close down shop. Even now "OLD" manufacturers are taken over by others since the pie is getting smaller and smaller!!
So, the "NEW and IMPROVED" stuff is getting hyped to create new sales.
Us "Oldtimers" have most likely a bevy of guns, who will do us for the remainder of our lives!!
I might be the exception of the rule, since I like to build my own stuff and experiment with wildcats! I don't "NEED" new guns, but MY hobby lets me try new stuff.
For instance, I have an old Sako (L61R) in 375H&H, it would kill any game I encounter in North America, BUT I build a .375X284 on a Vz24 Mauser and use it for Moose. Do I need it?? NO!! But I like to use it, because I build it. I'm working on a .375X30-40 Ackley Improved on a Martini Enfield action. The same question and answer! My next project is in 6.5mm I have reamers for the 06, the 284 and the Rem Mag. Same questions and answers!
My take of all the NEW stuff. It's like anything new, if it promises bigger, better, faster etc. , we like to have it!! If we need it or not; it's just human nature!!

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Chicks dig it.

If I had to do it all over again it would be a 308 or 30/06/Rem 700 with a 3-9 luppy (maybe a 4-14) and kill everything I've killed with the mags. My love affair with the 308 just keeps getting stronger.

WIth the mags what you pay for in price and muzzle blast hurts my aging shoulder. I love my PSS 300 WM cause it soaks up the recoil but a 12-13 lb rifle quickly turns into a hunk of firewood in the field. Plus I can't practice near as much or long with it as the 308.

Bottom line....what ever floats your boat.

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I think most of us have this innate fear that, if we don't have the latest and the best of hunting gear, we will miss our opportunity at the kill of a lifetime...because our rifle would not shoot far enough!

In reality, I have never even spotted a deer past 150 yards. Even if I could shoot that far, there is not a high probability of doing so in Michigan. I probably wouldn't even notice the big boy moseying past out yonder.

I hunt with a Marlin 336C, .35 Remington. My grandfather gave it to me this year when he learned he had cancer. I may buy newer and higher performing rifles, but I doubt any will be as treasured as this one.

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When I bought my 7MM I had actually compared the 'preformance" with the 30-06. The 7mm had more energy on impact and seemed to reach just a little further. <> The '.06 has a bigger bullet selction.

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remington wrote:
Chicks dig it.

Now your yer talkin' sense... Laugh

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northwolf wrote:
Don't we have to consider the area your predominant hunting ground is?
For instance up in my neck of the woods there are no long range opportunities. We have bush inside the bush. Most Moose and Bear are shot in the 50 to 100 meter/yard range.

I have that as well as the high probability of a long shot on Mule deer and elk.

I saw a large buck yesterday afternoon while grouse hunting. He was on a ridge above us. Likely 600-650 yds., uphill (approx.) 48* angle. Wind5-6 mph. 90% value L>R. If I had my 7RM I could have shot him. 150 gr. Silvertip 3100fps. Yes

The day before I tracked a black bear to within 70 yds. It was a sow with a cub. Shame on You!

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