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Sorry you didn't get one and

Sorry you didn't get one and that the hunt didn't go the way you planned.  But at least you're off the couch and in the woods.  What options do you have for 2011?  Deer or open to any animal?

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Great question CVC I still

Great question CVC

I still have December in my beloved LowCountry - although that is a very tough time deer wise.

I am ready, however, to get back to the black water swamps of SC and the quiet times that privately leased land holds.

2011? The focus will be whitetails for sure.

I have a new 270 acre private lease that is going to require a lot of work food plot and stand wise.

That may be my entire season next year.

A bow trip back up here to Illinois or maybe to Ohio will also have to be considered.

My friends hunted public land in Ohio this year and did well - and also stated that the hunting pressure was minimal.

Long range, I will apply for Iowa on 2011 and be turned down - and then start doing some research for a combined elk / mule deer hunt.

The latter I know nothing about so the learning curve will be steep.

I want to take a Pope and Young with the bow before I get too fired up to go out west.

I am starting to count the years however...I will be 54 in January and as they say - time waits for no man.

I am very tired right now and can feel the years.

Let me get a few days rest and some good food and I will be right back at it.

Jim

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Fired up the computer to this

Fired up the computer to this post and tuned to the outdoor channel....guess what I'm watching?  Roger Raglin opening day for shotgun season in IL.  Only thing is he is hunting private land and it will only take him thirty minutes to get a deer ::whistling:  

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Amazing what tv and money can

Amazing what tv and money can do,,,

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Yep, not to mention editing. 

Yep, not to mention editing.  They should tell viewers the hours spent in the stand and field to get the deer.  Not because they have to disclose it, but because it is interesting.  Lee and Tiffany often talk about the days in the field to get that deer and it provides a unique insight into tv hunting.

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As long as the advertising

As long as the advertising dollars roll in, they will keep filming, that is for sure.

I am not a tv person so I do not watch hunting shows - what I have seen is really little more than thinly veiled advertising anyway... if not for an outfitter or ranch, for the clothing and gear that was used for the hunt.

Now I am going to sound like an old curmudgeon - but that is really why I do not watch... if they would try to teach us something, it would be a different story - but I do not feel that is the case.

What would be great would be a series... that addressed hunting from the start... first you study deer and deer movements and how they live... then you move on to gear - shooting, tree stand safety, dressing warmly, etc... and then you move on to hunting tactics, starting with the basics on how to hunt... so someone that was new to the sport could watch this series and have an idea of how to hunt when they went to the field.

Have it slanted toward conservation, habitat improvement, that sort of thing... and actually mold future hunters and make existing hunters better at what they do.

The advertising would have to go along with it - but make the show more information based so people could gain from it.

In this manner, we could actually "grow" the ranks of hunters and make the sport even stronger than it already is.

From what I see, what these shows do best is to make folks feel inferior about the gear they do have, the areas they do hunt and the successes they actually enjoy - but that is just one man's opinion!

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Sure, some shows are like

Sure, some shows are like informercials and all have advertising, but some are just entertainment.  I am watching Tracks Across Africa and a leopard hunt.  Nothing educational about it, not trying to sell a particular product, but it is sponsored by the Dallas Safari Club, but I am transported to the dark continent and get to watch a leopard hunt.  Just a diversion that entertains me as I relax.  I get to see the people of a different country and watch a hunt that I will never take so I enjoy it.

 

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All right Folks, I will leave

All right Folks, I will leave this thread with one last post...

My two trips to Illinois did not result in any deer taken.

The bow trip, I could have easily shot - and likely taken - my best bow buck ever, but that would have been easy to do as I have never taken a decent buck with the bow. I passed on a 13 - 14" seven pointer at three yards that would have been about a 90" buck. In retrospect, perhaps I should have shot him but I was hoping for a Pope and Young buck and that will be my focus in future years also.

On the gun hunt, I passed opening morning on an "iffy" shot on about a 115 to 120" buck... but I was - again - hoping to get one of those Illinois brutes. I did not see any other decent bucks in that three day hunt... so nothing taken.

I did learn a lot, however, about the lay of the land and hunting there.

I also reinforced what I already knew - hunting public land is TOUGH.

Having to hump all of your gear in and out, including the stand, is also very tough.

I am home now and trying to assess what I accomplished - and then also to start formulating a plan for 2011. It will include a Midwest hunt but will likely be bow only.

Now... "selling" that to the wife may be another issue altogether!

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If you shoot a small deer

If you shoot a small deer you'll never shoot a big one so I think you did the right thing.  I know exactly how you feel as I passed on a buck earlier and now wonder if I will get a buck at all with the bow.  I second guess myself, but the truth is I did the right thing.  I set a goal at the beginning of the season and I am sticking to it, but it is hard.

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I keep telling myself that -

I keep telling myself that - and I know I really did do the right thing... but it is sort of hard to swallow all that effort and no positive results.

I will be the better for it in the long run - but short term, it is tough.

The first thing people ask is - what did you get?

Not what did you learn, did you have fun, was it pretty there, what else did you see - it is always - "what did you get".

At least now, in my older years, it is much easier to just simply say I did not take anything... early on, I would have definitely shot SOMETHING.

I will put this one in the bank and use the experience to work toward my future goals... and they are a Pope and Young with the bow and a 140 - 150 incher with the shotgun or rifle.

I think I will work on this the hardest for the next several years and then start thinking seriously about some mule deer and elk.

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