As to SoCo's remarks about American troops being responsible for the deaths of and I quote here" hundreds of thousands " of Iraqis this is plain lies and rubbish. You and the rest of the left give lip service to supporting our troops and then turn at the first opportunity and accuse them of mass murder. Your alleged support of them is questionable given your horrible and unfounded accusations. We go to greater lenghts than any known standing army in world history to minimize civillian casualties, even placing our own at risk at times. I'm sure any American serviceman or woman would resent that as I do. I generaly must say you (unlike civetcat) are intelligent, respectful and your ideas are well presented with little or no name calling or mean spiritedness. I cannot usually agree with you but I like having you here and debating with you is a pleasure. But that remark was uncalled for. I can only hope I missunderstood. I expect those kinds of remarks from a troll like civet but have come to expect better from you.
My friend, I'm being as civil and true to my point of view as can be done when I make my posts. I don't hold the troops responsible for a situation they are thrown into by their civilian leadership. If anything I have more sympathy for them due to the fact that they have an obligation to follow orders whether they agree with them or not. Even with all the precautions in the world to 'minimize' causalities an extreme amount have happened. Also, you have to look at consequences such as the ethnic cleansing Shites and Sunnis were undertaking on each other due to what we started.
What if the Russia decided Obama was a threat to us and invaded. During this invasion and occupation ninety percent of your family was killed and oh, say Bush, was put back into power while you lost your family, your home, your children, your job. Putin told you 'well we took all precautions to 'minimize casualties deal with it. Would you be happy with that?
One more time, I don't fault our troops for the death and destruction caused by our occupation. I fault the civilian leadership who started for false reasons. If you can't make that distinction and want to get all huffy and puffy that's your problem not mine.