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Hey guys I am interested in reloading but I dont even know where to start besides manual manual and manuals. I know that I need to read lots but my main questions are about equipment.

I will be reloading a 270 win, 7x57 and a 243 win

What brands are good yet affordable and is it really less expensive than buying ammo I know that you can get way better performance as far as each shot should be just like the last in which, some cases I have had trouble with some factory loads.

So I geuss what I am asking is HELP!!! Think Think

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I would start with the Lee Aniversery Kit, it has preaty well all you need to start with except mabe a powder dribler. It has reloading data I thingk it still comes with a reloading book that takes you step by step through all the reloading proseses (sp). for under $150.00.
Regards and have fun
F.K.

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I would suggest either paying to take a class on metallic cartridge reloading or find someone who is well versed in reloading and sit with them for a few hours and have them show you step by step. It's best learned hands-on under the careful instruction of someone who is experienced in it. Don't learn from a novice or from someone who thinks they know. Find someone who does know. Reloading requires care, diligence, and a regimented following of procedures in order for it to be done safely. Most gun clubs and many sporting goods store who sell guns will offer a one day class. It's worth taking it. Look for one that's taught by an NRA certified instructor.

As far as reloading equipment goes. The Lee will get you started, but I can tell you that years ago the Lee is what I bought and after reloading my first batch of rifle ammo I very quickly began replacing every Lee tool with tools from RCBS except for the press and the dies. If I could go back several years and do it all over again I would have just pony'd up the money and bought an RCBS kit. Lee presses are good and the dies are good, but the rest of their equipment leaves a lot to be desired. just my opinion.

You'll need a few current reloading data manuals and for rifle, a good lathe type case neck trimmer. A good trimmer usually is not included in any kit. You will need a stable strudy workbench located in "steril" environment (a place well lit, free from any noise distractions, has a stable room temperature, and free of clutter). No radio, no TV, and no telephone, you will want to be free of distractions as much as possible when reloading, trust me.

Reloading will save you money, especially where brass cases are concerned. The initial investment may cost what seems like a lot, but it pays for itself in the long run, depending on how much you shoot. As far as the quality of ammo, well that's a matter of how much care and work you are willing to put into your own product (your reloads). A lot of fine tuning is initially required, but over all you will get a much more consistant cartridge. It's really up to you.

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Fisher King wrote:
I would start with the Lee Aniversery Kit, it has preaty well all you need to start with except mabe a powder dribler. It has reloading data I thingk it still comes with a reloading book that takes you step by step through all the reloading proseses (sp). for under $150.00.
Regards and have fun
F.K.

I agree with the Lee kit. On another site is a guy just learning and he bought the latest and greatest of everything. He's having trouble making the machines work and hasn't a clue how to make a good round. Start simple and concentrate on making good safe ammunition. Worry about the latest tools later and worry about learning to tweek ammo after you learn to make good ammo.

Remember learn to make good ammo the works in your rifle first. If you read to much you'll get drug away from the basic's and end up confussed.

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If you are in no big hurry, used equip can be found pretty reasonable at times.
If you know someone who does estate sales, they can often locate some good equip for you. Can't say you will have everything you need with in a couple of months, but it's another Ave. A friend picked up a new, never unboxed RCBS Rock Chucker Master kit for $100 at an estate sale less than a year ago.
I don't believe these types of deals are an everyday occurance, but it never hurts to keep ones eyes open. Another aspect of this is that there are getting to be more and more folks hurting for $$ out there. Never know what might become available.

RCBS, Hornady, Lyman, Redding, Forester, Dillion and Lee all make very servicable equip. I have not owned all the above, but it appears to be decent stuff.
Like a firearm, if kept clean and properly maintained, it will last the vast majority of reloaders, a lifetime.

AS suggested in the previous post, a mentor or class sure does not hurt anything. Sometimes "seeing" explains a lot of things.

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Wow Thanks to all for all of the input. It will be a while before I can do it but I shoot alot and think that it would be a fun and new challenge.

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The thing to remember is that you won't save any money doing it (at least not initially). However, it does allow you to make ammo that your guns like rather than be stuck with whatever you are lucky enough to find at the store.

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JCalhoun..............I posted that very thing a little while ago on this topic and it disappeared into cyberspace somewhere.......at least it is not on here. Think

I view the premise that one takes up reloading to save money on ammo as being in the same class as taking up hunting to save on the price of putting meat in the freezer. lol

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I suppose it like anything else. If you insist on having the latest greatest equipment, You will likely never come out ahead in the $$ game. If you go with a Lee Loader, you probably would end up ahead of the $$ game sooner than later.

I have never used a Lee Loader, but understand that if care is taken, you can turn out some pretty consistant loads. I also understand that you better have plenty of time.

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Well I thought we could have a little humor on this topic........

If a person bought a basic reloading set up, developed some basic loads for their firearms that they were going to stick with and then didn't change their shooting habits, as in grossly increase how much they shoot............then you could eventually pay it off and be saving.

I know there are guys like that out there, but I do not know any personally. Everyone I know starts shooting more and experimenting looking for the perfect loads, trying new bullets and powders that come out. Then they are shooting enough volume they start upgrading some of the equipment to speed up some of the processes to save time.

I certainly do not have all of the latest and greatest reloading equipment, but I certainly have a pile of money tied up in it. Which is why in my post that went astray I suggested buying a better set up to begin with as you will be happy with it longer..............such as the RCBS Supreme reloading kit. All too often if your first venture into it is too basic, you will be wanting to upgrade some of the components fairly quickly to something else. Just my opinion, and many will disagree.

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I fully agree with Don Fisher's point about learning the basics. However I have always seen the value of having the right tools and good quality worthwhile tools to do the job more efficiently. This is the reason why I suggest investing in a better quality reloading kit to start with. Without elaborating too much I'll just say that some of the tools Lee makes are just a real pain in the neck to use, namely their case trimmer and their powder hoppers are just plain junk. I do agree that the more you reload,the more you will shoot. It's gets to be an addiction and you will upgrade to more high tech equipment. But, to start with it's best to learn the basics, and get tools that will make the experience more enjoyable.

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