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I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

I can say that I am glad they stayed there corse and the 30 Democrats or so.
I just Pray that all those who voted for the new Obama Care do get put under a large micro scope!

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

Let this issue go down as the Democrats' version of Pickett's charge. They ignored a substantial majority of American people who strongly opposed it, and enacted a program that will increase the cost of American labor and business in the midst of the worst economic downturn since the Depression. Caterpillar, for example, estimates the bill will cost the company $100 million the first year alone.

This will not improve the quality of health care. This will not improve he economy. This will not put more people to work. What it will do is grow government and expand government control over the lives of individuals.

Maybe Pickett was a bad analogy. Pearl Harbor may be better -- a short term victory gained at the cost of an enemy completely motivated, unified, and driven to destroy the attacker.

Come on, November.

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

This is actually a great day in America ... The day liberal party buries itself. Here in Jersey it was an even split but the majority of the people are joining tea parties . The are adviseing all those that voted for it to start packing and that not to come back to the state after they are votede out in November. This is not going to just go away its turning into a firestorm .

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

Expat,
The picketts charge analogy is appropriate. With not one Republican (to my knowledge anyway) siding with them they cannot later claim this boondoggle was bi-partisan. They will get ALL the blame. The only problem is that of by some miracle it works, they will get all the credit. I know that's about as likely as adding 2 and 2 and getting 12 but you never know. It would be just my luck.

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

It ain't gonna work, because the government has been oursourcing and privatizing for years. Why? Because private enterprise can do it cheaper and more efficiently. And trust me...that $940 billion program will be over a trillion within the next few weeks, and will be far higher than that long before it's implemented. That's how it works -- you lowball the estimate to get approval and sink the hook, and then start justifying increases over time to address "unforseen" expenses that have to be funded because the program can't be allowed to fail. Defense contractors do it all the time.

Then the taxes that'll start kicking in all over the place. Tanning salons, for example, now have to charge a 10 percent tax. Oh, sure -- they'll leave income taxes alone for everyone but the successful, but they'll hit everyone else with item-specific fees and taxes that'll nip at us constantly like a toy poodle on a mailman. England's been doing it for years.

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

Here's a classic example of what this is all about. Democratic senator John Dingle:

“The harsh fact of the matter is when you’re going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.”

These people see the American population as subjects to rule, not people to serve.

http://www.breitbart.tv/shocking-audio-rep-dingell-says-obamacare-will-e...

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

I read in new that the taxes go up NOW 2 years before its all supposed to take effect so they have a head start on the cost control and hide the actual cost. I dont think this is the end but the beginning of a frame work. Its a bad deal thats going down either way.

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

Actually Romey most of the benefits dont kick in for 4 years. The taxes sre increased imediatly , this is how the cbc was amle to show that it would decrease the national debt. They collectmoney for 4 years before giving you anything. Its a smoke and mirror show.

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Re: I'm proud to say I'm a Republican

I'm sure Tony is right. Congress will no doubt be taking funds from this much as they did (and still do) from social security to spend on their pet projests. What would amount to little more than theft.

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