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Ike's daughter quits the party

Reflections on Leaving the Party
by Susan Eisenhower

08.21.2008

I have decided I can no longer be a registered Republican. For the first time in my life I announced my support for a Democratic candidate for the presidency, in February of this year. This was not an endorsement of the Democratic platform, nor was it a slap in the face to the Republican Party. It was an expression of support specifically for Senator Barack Obama. I had always intended to go back to party ranks after the election and work with my many dedicated friends and colleagues to help reshape the GOP, especially in the foreign-policy arena. But I now know I will be more effective focusing on our national and international problems than I will be in trying to reinvigorate a political organization that has already consumed nearly all of its moderate “seed corn.” And now, as the party threatens to trivialize what promised to be a serious debate on our future direction, it will alienate many young people who might have come into party ranks.

My decision came at the end of last week when it was demonstrated to the nation that McCain and this Bush White House have learned little in the last five years. They mishandled what became a crisis in the Caucusus, and this has undermined U.S. national security. At the same time, the McCain camp appears to be comfortable with running an unworthy Karl Rove–style political campaign. Will the McCain operation, and its sponsors, do anything to win?

This week, I changed my registration from Republican to independent. The two political parties as they exist today, and the partisanship that they foster, reflect the many fights of the cold war, the Vietnam era, the post–cold war and the 9/11 periods. Today we are in a different place altogether, where our security as a nation is challenged not just from abroad but also close to home. The energy, health-care and financial crises threaten our national prosperity and well-being, just as surely as any confrontation overseas or an attack by radical terrorists.

As an independent I want to be free of the constraints and burdens that have come with trying to make my own views explainable in the context of today’s party. Hijacked by a relatively small few, the GOP of today bears no resemblance to Lincoln, Roosevelt or Eisenhower’s party, or many of the other Republican administrations that came after. In my grandparents’ time, the thrust of the party was rooted in: a respect for the constitution; the defense of civil liberties; a commitment to fiscal responsibility; the pursuit and stewardship of America’s interests abroad; the use of multilateral international engagement and “soft power”; the advancement of civil rights; investment in infrastructure; environmental stewardship; the promotion of science and its discoveries; and a philosophical approach focused squarely on the future.

As an independent I will now feel comfortable supporting people of any political party who reflect those core values.

It was not easy taking this step, since politics, like religion, is something learned on the knee of one’s parents and grandparents. And like anything else inherited, it is imbedded in one’s own identity. This makes leaving even harder.

But there will be some joy for me in my new status since I will be able to speak for myself, and not as a member of a party that has, sadly, lost its way.

I can completely understand where she's coming from. I too switched affiliation before the 06 midterms but had lost my way at least in 2000. No longer fit my definition of conservative.

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I also switched parties, but from Democrat to Republican. To say that Democrats are conservative is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously, Susan Eisenhower has also been fooled by the rhetorical left wing media machine.

Are any of these ideas conservative?

Doubling capital gains taxes on stock and real estate sales.
Increasing FICA taxes by 14 points on all income over $100,000.00.
Doubling taxes on dividends.
Expanding the inheritance tax.
Weakening the Patriot Act.
Curbing antiterror wiretapping.
Extending health insurance benefits to illegal immigrants.
Giving children of illegal immigrants in-state tuition at state universities.
Expanding the number of immigrants who can enter the U.S.
Weakening education standards.
Expanding health insurance so drastically that it forces us to ration medical care, particularly to the elderly.
Expanding the welfare state, dividing the country between tax-payers and tax-consumers.
Supporting abortions, including partial birth abortions to the point of considering a time limit after birth, where the child remains a fetus (not really a child yet.)
Appointing liberal judges that make law instead of interpret it.
Legislating the firearms industry out of business.
"Common sense" gun control.

These ideas don't appear very conservative to me.

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Mr. Whelland,

On other threads you have accused me of bringing off topic discussion onto the thread when I responded to another poster. Kindly restrict your commentary to Ms Eisenhowers party switch.

A more carefull reading lists her reasons.

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In my grandparents’ time, the thrust of the party was rooted in: a respect for the constitution; the defense of civil liberties; a commitment to fiscal responsibility; the pursuit and stewardship of America’s interests abroad; the use of multilateral international engagement and “soft power”; the advancement of civil rights; investment in infrastructure; environmental stewardship; the promotion of science and its discoveries; and a philosophical approach focused squarely on the future

I've no idea where you dreamed up your list of untruths regarding Democratic goals, I suggest when you make such far ranging statements that you quote from source itself, (Democratic platform, Obama speaches, etc.) or a reputable non partisan source. Respectfully, I'd also suggest if you wish to know where Democrats stand on various issues you begin a thread discussing them.

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Civetcat,

I merely responded to your original post regarding a party switch by Susan Eisenhower with my own observations regarding conservative values as compared to the platform of Democrats. Therefore, I believe it was on topic. To suggest otherwise is absurd. I also know how to read and completely understood what was written and your suggestions otherwise is appalling. I think from this point forward, I should take the advice of others on this site and refuse any attempt and intelligent debate with you.

As far as you telling me what I can and can't do, you are way out of line and should be the last one to preach in such a ridiculous manner. If something needs to be pulled or moved, we'll let the moderator take care of it, of which you are not.

Lastly, the list is not dreamed up or a bunch of untruths. I will defintely start some threads. Although, some are already there if you care to go back and look.

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Mr Whelland,

And others who read this, as this is after all a public forum.

I have no wish to debate you or anyone else, but rather a respectfull discussion as evidenced by my words and posts. I've no idea what others have suggested you do or not do. I've not read anything or recieved personal messages. I do believe if I had violated the forum rules in substance or intent I would have been contacted directly. Many moderators contribute to the Politics section of this forum. They must value diversity of opinion, it's one of the bedrocks of our democracy.

I still believe that it is best to quote directly from a source. That way one avoids opinion when stating what others believe or stand for. I've never read of the Democratic Party desiring to "Legislate the firearms industry out of business." for instance. I suggest you read Obamas remarks at a Wisconsin rod and gun club today.

I've no idea why you believe I've told you anything to do. Likewise I've not asked anyone to pull or delete anything, whatever that means. I did and still do suggest we stay on topic. If that offends you I'm sorry. Likewise flamewars are more appropriate in the private message system or in email.

The National Interest where Ms. Eisenhower published her letter is a conservative organisation researching and publishing ideas on foreign policy.
http://www.nationalinterest.org/Article.aspx?id=19618
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Interest Susan Eisenhower is the grand daughter of Ike. See even I make mistakes. smile Being the president of the Eisenhower institute she directs research in conservative issues, and I'd read things by her before, always assumed her to be the daughter.

As a conservative I am able to relate to many of the thoughts of Ms Eisenhower. If you aren't, I'm ok with it. I enjoy discussing current events and politics, (as well as eating all animals). You are free to discus with me or not as you desire. But bear in mind I do like to stick to facts, or opinion clearly stated as such.

I believe (that usually indicates an opinion) there is no copyright on the word conservative. Currently the Democratic Party and thier presidential candidate more clearly represent my idea of conservative than does the Republican party. Apparently Ms Eisenhower feels similarly.

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So what? Ike's granddaughter (not daughter) goes independent. And how is this newsworthy? Is there some rule that says descendents of Republicans must be Republican also? Our country isn't a monarchy, and family members are allowed to make up their own minds.

So Ike's granddaughter wants to vote for a Democrat. JFK's niece sleeps with a Republican. Big deal. It's a real stretch to try to expand a family association into a political issue.

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expatriate wrote:
So what? Ike's granddaughter (not daughter) goes independent. And how is this newsworthy? Is there some rule that says descendents of Republicans must be Republican also? Our country isn't a monarchy, and family members are allowed to make up their own minds.

So Ike's granddaughter wants to vote for a Democrat. JFK's niece sleeps with a Republican. Big deal. It's a real stretch to try to expand a family association into a political issue.

Oh gee, there you go again. It's newsworthy because a notable member of the conservative movement has left the party due to extreme displeasure and disappointment the direction of your party has gone.

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SoCoKHntr wrote:
Oh gee, there you go again. It's newsworthy because a notable member of the conservative movement has left the party due to extreme displeasure and disappointment the direction of your party has gone.

Notable? Hardly, call me when Bush(1 or 2) jump ship. This is nothing more than trying to make something out of nothing. If a true conservative believes the dems are more in step with conservatism than the republicans they have been brain washed. Or are just simply illiterate.

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csumerall wrote:
SoCoKHntr wrote:
Oh gee, there you go again. It's newsworthy because a notable member of the conservative movement has left the party due to extreme displeasure and disappointment the direction of your party has gone.

Notable? Hardly, call me when Bush(1 or 2) jump ship. This is nothing more than trying to make something out of nothing. If a true conservative believes the dems are more in step with conservatism than the republicans they have been brain washed. Or are just simply illiterate.

If Bush 2 became a Dem that's the day you'd see Soco become a repub!

Seriously, why would Bush jump ship? He and his buds have made out big time in their investment of American manpower and the policies they have enacted. Their agenda has worked like gangbusters for them.

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My point is that if either bush jumped ship that would be news worthy, this on the other hand is not. It probably was this article or an article about a chipmunk that could skateboard and the the picture of the chimpmunk didnt turn out.

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I seem to remember some sort of split a few years ago between Bush 1 and 2 as epitomized by Bakers a strongly worded op ed. Seemed like the senior wasn't quite a neo con.

Old time conservatives leaving the party certainly isn't chipmunks. Nancy Reagans endorsement of McCain was tepid at best.

Permanent minority anyone?

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