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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

We all know that an ideal bullet is one that provides massive expansion and still has enough weight leftover to exit an animal. Better said than done!

Granted, most bullets are on one end of the spectrum or the other, but manufactures are getting much better while moving closer to middle ground with adequate expansion / penetration in most cases.

Hunters should always look for penetration first and expansion second because an exit hole = a good blood trail and more than likely a recovered animal.

Moreover, just because a bullet expands and penetrates well on light-skinned deer, doesn't mean it's automatically adequate for elk. I.E. Remington Core Lokt, Winchester Power Point, Sierra Game King. Conversely, just because a round does well on elk, doesn't make it a deer bullet either.

Example of all-around performing projectiles:

Bullets from Nosler (Solid Base / AccuBond / Partition), Speer (Hot Core / Grand Slam), Hornady (Interlock / InterBond), Remington (Ultra Core Lokt), usually provide the best of both worlds (good expansion, plus exit wound); performing well on deer or elk as long as the right grain is used.

While a bullet may have the ability to expand and take a deer, remember that in order for an exit wound, light for caliber rounds MAY need to be avoided.

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Open Discussion

Let's have an open discussion on all-around bullets.

Steve

P.S. Those who only hunt one species are welcome to respond as well.

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Location: Raleigh, NC
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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

With my limited use of rifles, I have liked the Nossler partition's in my savage .270, and the Winchester silvertip's in my Win. 30-06. I am yet to hunt with the .270, but like the groups I get with them.
My 1st deer was with a Win. 32 special lever action, shootnig the Winchester silver's. The shot was app. 70 yards, and there was excellent expansion (took out most of the right shoulder meat :x ), and the deer dropped app. 10-15 yards from the point of impact. With the 270 and 06, I want to make sure I use the best grain for the situation (White tail). Some places allow for long shots, such as out to 250-300 yards (I wouldn't shoot any more than 250 until I'm a better shot), while some of my other hunting areas are going to be no more than 60 yards. For the shorter range, I will most likely bring the 12 ga. with me with a magnum slug.
John-

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Location: Alabama
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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

Drum002 summed it all up with the .270 and the 30-06.
This past seaon I used hand loads that we loaded with Nosler partitons in my .270 A-bolt. The coyote I shot turned a complete 180 degrees and didn't move again. The deer I shot dropped to the ground and rolled over and that was it. I shoot silvertips from my BAR and only rarely does anything ever run. Granted shot placement is critical but the right bullet is equally important!!

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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

I use my .303 for almost all big game and a powerpoint bullet 180gr and it works everytime

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Location: Utah
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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

I have not heard any one say anything about them, but I like remington core lokt bullets. I have yet to have a deer walk away. I would like to recover a bullet so I can see how it expanded. GO REMINGTON

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I have used the .270 core-lokt and with 150 grain factory loads I have had a few deer run off so we loaded the handloads I mentioned before we went to colorado. We came back with all of our handloads so I justed hunted with those and I love em!

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Location: Utah
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A 150-gr. bullet of .277 diameter has a higher sectional density than .308 180-gr.'s, which is too heavy for this caliber on deer.

You might consider using 130-gr. Core Lokts on deer, which is comparable to 30 caliber 165-grainers.

Matching the weight of the bullet and construction of the bullet to the game is extremely important, but not as much as shot placement.

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I have heard a lot about barnes bullets. I was thinking maybe of trying those out this yr. Anyone knows anything about or use federal ammo or maybe even hornady.

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IDEAL Bullets That Provide Excellent Expansion & Exit Wo

The Remington Core Lokts are just fine for deer; heavy for caliber loads are not needed for light skinned game (unless the bullet is very fragile).

Winchester Power Points work too, but remember they open up a little faster than Core Lokts, but not quite as fast as Nosler's Ballistic Tips.

Exception: If using Ballistic Tips, Nosler recommends heavy for caliber rounds for deer, which is why I prefer 30-06 180-gr. Ballistic Silvertips for light-skinned game to achieve massive shock and then enough mass leftover for full penetration. (Best of both worlds.)

Federal's Hot Core Bullets made by Speer perform extremely well as does Hornady Interlocks, as long as lighter or medium grain projectiles are used.

When selecting a bullet, you need to know how tough the jacket is for the intended game. If hunting deer with a fragile bullet, you probably will be best served with a heavier bullet. If shooting deer with a tougher bullet, then a light or medium weight is proper.

After choosing one or two bullet styles / weights, last step is to see which one shoots best in your rifle and then practice, practice, practice!

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