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Idaho unit 27

Hello,
 I am planing to hunt unit 27 next year (2013) with a friend. I have hunted unit 28 and saw unit 27 across the river from there. I would like to get into and stay in the back country this time. I was wondering if anyone knows who might have some horses I can rent or where I could start looking for someone that may be interested in going in with us and their horses (is that legal?)? Any other helpful info would be apreciated as well!
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planes

The best way in there is to use the backcountry air service if you don't have horses.  It doesn't sound very legal to use someone's horses if they aren't an outfitter if you are paying them, but should be legal if you are hunting alongside of them.

Anyway, it's huge country, and the easiest and fastest way to get deep in there is to land on one of the little airstrips scattered throughout the unit.

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How much does it cost to fly

How much does it cost to fly in like that? I was thinking that we would definately be more mobil with horses or mules. Looking to spend 12-14 days in there. I know where I would go in and I know of a decent trail to get me back to where I want to start looking around too. Any idea how much an outfitter would want to charge? I have 17 months to plan for this hunt. Also would rather do it without the outfitter.

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couple hundred bucks

If I remember right it would generally be $400 each way.  So $800-$1000 which is probably less than the horses and associated gear would cost you. 

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OK. There is also the problem

OK. There is also the problem with being able to feed them while in there. Thanks for your time in answering!

I have only spent a couple nights out and not this amount of time. I am wondering if there is a place to find some good info on what I need to bring with me and maybe get some insight into things I may not think of. I am not used to the western mountains and almost all of my outdoor experience has been in the eastern hardwood forests. I have been on two hunts out west one in Colorado where I stayed with my father in my uncles cabin on the BLM lands and the other was in Idaho with a guide in unit 28. Had a great time on both hunts but did not harvest on either. Killing an animal would be great but not the most important part of the hunt for me. My friend that is going with me (very good friend from work and I also hunt his farm in Pa) doesn't even hunt. Has no interest in hunting but thinks this will be a great adventure anyway.

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I do horseback hunts on occasion

It's really a huge pain, but they are incredibly useful.  So, in addition to your gear, you'll need to arrive in Idaho with lots of rope for highlines, plus stakes and electric fencing or hobbles or something of that nature to be able to feed your horses.  

A bare bones horse camp, need three horses for two guys:

If you're not a moderately experienced horseman, you could end up over your head with renting.

Just ask here about gear to bring with you.  For starters you'll want a water filter, don't bother packing water.  You'll need to learn what real maps look like and get some of them.  A GPS and knowledge of how to use it (including finding yourself on a paper map if you don't have one of the new ones with map overlays) is a great tool too.  And you'll want some way to eat food.  Everything else is optional to some degree.  Could go tents or tarps or teepees, hot or cold food,  min or max camp comfort, etc, etc, etc.

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check out middle fork

check out middle fork aviation in challis, idaho.  they can get you squared away on alot of your questions. Also be prepared to need to hike a couple of hours away from any airstrip.  Airstrips are popular and can be crowded. 

do a google search for renting horses.  there are outfits out there that do that.  also central idaho is a rugged and remote as any place in north america.  Big country and not very forgiving.  i have sat on a airstrip for5 days waiting for weather to clear  to fly home.   Also this area does have a large wolf population and is presently under quota for elk.  Awesome country, but be prepared for a tough hunt. 

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The first time i ran the

The first time i ran the middle fork of the salmon, i was hooked on the area.  That was in 2002 and we did an early season whitewater kayak trip.  after that trip, i knew i had to get my father in that country.  Luckily i was able to before he died.  The frank church river of no return wilderness is about as badass of a place as anywhere in north america.  The hunting may not be what it was, but those mountains are still awesome.  If you want to see truly wild country and have a good chance at game, this is a great place.  But be prepared for lots of work.  I shot a mulie in there a couple of years ago.  3 hours one way from camp.  1\2 came out on the day i shot it. the other half the next day.  6 hours of packing for a ok buck.  You start questioning your sanity.  But it is the whole expierence, not just the kill.  However with that said.I do have better elk hunting by the house. 

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  "If you want to see truly

  "If you want to see truly wild country and have a good chance at game"

YES! I think this is the point of the trip for me. I have never killed a mulie or elk or lion and just the fact that I have the chance in here is why I want to go. Also because most people never would do it.

I was not aware that I could not use someone else's horses. I guess thats because I would be paying them. I believe there is some sort of law here in Pa too about paying for services if you will be using public land. I have no interest in breaking any laws and want to do it right. I have been looking into drop camps and now considering if that is the right way to go. That looks very expensive too, but I'm starting to figure out that I dont have the resources needed for this kind of a trip without some one local to help me.

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