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I miss our lefties!

I have noticed the absence of our left wing brethren lately. I must say it gets dull around here without them. I find myself forced to debate constitutional issues with Expatriate and Cowgal (whom I usually agree with) just to get a good argument going. I rather like having my ideas and beliefs challenged. If a belief can't stand up to a good debate it's probably not worth having. While Civetcat was a troll and about as much a shooter as I am a dance hall girl he was still entertaining. If nothing else he gave us a good excuse to talk about potatos and have a good laugh. SoCokhunter is intelligent, well thought out and generaly reasonable. I disagree with him on most social and political issues but I still enjoy and respect his beliefs. I miss having them to argue with. What a boring world it would be if we all agreed on everything.

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I miss our lefties!

Ha ha! Well you live in California Bunnyslayer, I'm sure you could drum up a few lefties to entertain us here on BGH! neener!

If we don't gang up on them and then shred them to pieces, a few might stick around. Laugh

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Cowgal I'll be more than happy to give you some of our lefties. You can gladly take Nancy, Diane and Barbara just to start!! In fact Please Please take them!!! Take them now!!! Laugh Laugh Laugh

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I miss our lefties!

While you're at it, you can take the leftists from here in Michigan too. You can have Governor Jennifer Granholm, Senator Carl Levin and Senator Debbie Stabenow.

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Re: I miss our lefties!
BunnySlayer wrote:
I have noticed the absence of our left wing brethren lately. I must say it gets dull around here without them. I find myself forced to debate constitutional issues with Expatriate and Cowgal (whom I usually agree with) just to get a good argument going. I rather like having my ideas and beliefs challenged. If a belief can't stand up to a good debate it's probably not worth having. While Civetcat was a troll and about as much a shooter as I am a dance hall girl he was still entertaining. If nothing else he gave us a good excuse to talk about potatos and have a good laugh. SoCokhunter is intelligent, well thought out and generaly reasonable. I disagree with him on most social and political issues but I still enjoy and respect his beliefs. I miss having them to argue with. What a boring world it would be if we all agreed on everything.

Hey BunnySayer, thanks for the good words bud! Likewise, though we see differently on some issues I have no doubt you're a solid guy. I do like that you attempt to step outside of your views and at least look at it from another perspective. Some do, but many refuse to do even that and hold fast to the I'm right your wrong position. Me, I've been burnt on all the political hoopla though seeing Bush on his farewell tour new conference kind got me fired up. Anyway, been reloading, shooting, and trying to get some damn coyotes which have been giving me the slip as of late. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.

Also, I know you guys hated civetcat and think he's a non shooting troll or plant, but I don't. I think he's someone who's seen his share of war and Gov. propaganda and BS over the years and is sick of it. And, the esteemed Miss Cowgal may think we got shredded, but I never saw it that way. Not by a long shot.
neener! Laugh

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I miss our lefties!

I actually have been enjoying the way debate has risen to a higher intellectual level since they've stopped posting. It's nice to discuss an issue without it always spinning down a rabbit hole of Bush Derangement Syndrome or devolving into intellectual chicanery. I never had a problem with intellectual opposition -- just people that couldn't put a valid syllogism together if their life depended on it.

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expatriate wrote:
I actually have been enjoying the way debate has risen to a higher intellectual level since they've stopped posting. It's nice to discuss an issue without it always spinning down a rabbit hole of Bush Derangement Syndrome or devolving into intellectual chicanery. I never had a problem with intellectual opposition -- just people that couldn't put a valid syllogism together if their life depended on it.

Translation: I'm happy when everyone agrees with me and I'm Gandolf the Wizard to my dear lil hobbits again.

Kidding, you old neocon, just kidding!

Love and kisses.

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I'd rather be a wizard than a troll or mindless orc any day. At least wizards can think for themselves. Wait a minute...did I just out myself as a geek?

At any rate...take care, Obamabot. Just remember that you have no one to blame but Democrats for the next couple years.

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Actually, Bunny, I can play lefty is you really want me to. It's just like you to come out here and misrepresent yourself for the sake of argument, isn't it? Just like Bush lying to get us into this war! Still taking dictation from Karl Rove, I see? Maybe you and your little minions of the Halliburton underworld want to waterboard the planet and set Dick Cheney up as our king, but personally I don't think we need any more Katrinas. You're just angry because Obama is going to fix everything and we're all going to live in a world of magic unicorns and rainbows. Racist.

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expatriate wrote:
I'd rather be a wizard than a troll or mindless orc any day. At least wizards can think for themselves. Wait a minute...did I just out myself as a geek?

At any rate...take care, Obamabot. Just remember that you have no one to blame but Democrats for the next couple years.

The next couple of years??? I'm still pissed about the last eight! But anyway, I will leave you to the narcotic high of your soapbox.

Take care Don Quixote!

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I'm still laughing about the Lord of the Rings analogy. Obviously, you haven't read the books.

If you had, you'd know that the story centers around free civilizations trying to prevent a megalomaniac (Sauron) and his armies of mindlessly obedient minions from taking over the world. Sauron craves one thing to guarantee his success -- a ring that posseses powers to bring all races under his control. Interestingly, this ring is referred to as "The One." Gandalf and his hobbit friends go on a mission to destroy the ring and preserve freedom.

People laugh about the Lord of the Rings because it's fantasy, but it's an intricate work that reflects Tolkien's view of the world shaped by his experiences in WWI. It contains strong statements about authoriatarianism, rule through fear and intimidation, the dangers of losing society's soul to industrialization, and the horrors of mindless obedience.

So I'll gladly accept the analogy that I'm Gandalf, my fellow conservatives are hobbits and you, by extension, are in league with the forces of Sauron that oppose them and seek to stamp out free thinking and rule through tyranny.

Thank you...once again you've illustrated my point precisely through your ignorance.

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