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what it takes to hunt Grizz

In the early 70's i lived in Alaska, If you live there you do not need a guide , at least back then. I shot my first coastal brown bear in 1975. I guesse i had what it took then. I knew were to go , lived in the area for a few yrs. Had help from some of my locals that lived near me. Even have a couple of Black bears to my credit. What i'm saying is if you don't know the area and just have a general knowledg of the game , go with some one that knows just to be safe. There are a lot of dead hunters that figured they could kill a big bear or a elephant , or cape buffulo for the first time on there own. Well placed shots kill em.

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I don't doubt your Ability

I agree with you on your second statement.what I think you should do on any hunting trip is  a couple scouting trips and talk with some locals and have a hunting buddy and have some knowledge  your animal.What you don't need is a $20,000 babby sitter. I don't think anyone should hunt dangerous game alone.I guess what my point is hunters don't needs high dollar guides to hunt but you do need to do your homework.

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Sorry, but I am not online with most of these responses and also with the OP's original posting. Look folks, we are talking grizzly bear in Alaska here; NOT black bear, grizzly bears. Perhaps you should check-see what the actual population is, especially as compared to black bears in Alaska. My dream hunt is grizzly in Alaska. Instead, I went on a black bear hunt, saw a grizzly, and now am content. I can never afford to hunt grizzly in Alaska (unless I win the lottery), but I do NOT think that's unreasonable, considering the low amount allowed to be harvested every year.

It's what's called the law of supply and demand. It's also having to do with what exactly you need to do, and where you need to be, to be able to kill a grizzly bear. The idea of living in the U.S. of A. does not give you the right to drive a Cadillac or Corvette, just because you want to, does it? Nope, they are "saved" for those who not not only want one, but who also can afford one.

You can move to Alaska and hunt one in-state (eventually) if you want. This is the land of the free, you know, and you can live wherever you want. I promise that. I have zero problem with what the cost of a grizzly bear hunt in Alaska is (go ahead and check B.C. too). Because I cannot afford it, has nothing to do with what the true cost/value is.

My suggestion to you is to take a trip to Alaska (every real hunter should, IMHO) and hunt the "lowly" black bear in a region where there are also grizzlies. Experience the true bush country in Alaska from a primitive spike camp and maybe you'll also see a grizzly bear. Seeing the king of the wilderness in his own environment is truly a special sight. And I can promise you, he's the boss there.

 

 

 

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The way I see it is that a cadillac or a corvette is not Gods gift to me. A Grizzly is and I should not have to buy it like a car. Sorry thats just how i see it and i have been to alaska twice and killed black bear and canada also and I am thankful for that. I did not see a Grizzly so I dont know what it feels like to be in its presence I hope to one day.And I am not saying I want pay the $20, 000 to hunt one if I ever get that much. One other point is that you can take and hire a guide to take you and spike out for a week and kill 3 black bear in unit 16 for $5,000 that includes food, and shelter, tags are extra.Then you take that exact same trip and go for grizzly in unit 16 and you can add $15,000 its the same amount of work for the guide,Maybe I was dropped as a baby or does anyone else see it that way? As for the population in some ares now you can kill 3 grizzly a year? I do understand the grizzly has to have a certain value thats what makes them all an asset to the to everyone besides us sportman.

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Charlie I hope I didn't give

Charlie I hope I didn't give the wrong info .I believe the limit is two a year in16B,17,19A,19D,20E,and residents can take two in 22A.I'm not aware of any place you can take three Browns.

[It's what's called the law of supply and demand] That would stand if the state wasn't trying to reduce the number of bears in those areas, without much success. No the simple truth is all nonres are required to hire a guide,unless your hunting with a resident relative at least 19 years old, and within second degree of kindred.So since it's required and the number of guides is small, your going to pay.

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not at all

No problem Alex my fault I love your feedback you are spot on in my opinion. I can tell when I am getting feedback from a very knowledgeble person and when someone is just talking to hear them self.so keep it coming I love to read it.                                                                                      

It is a good rifle, and kilt the bear that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead. Sincerley, Hatchet Jack.

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paying guides

I've never hired a guide for any of my hunts in the past and I sure don't plan on ever using one either.  Someone once asked me - what about for a dream hunt?  Can someone please tell me what the heck is a dream hunt?  Seriously!  All my hunts are a dream hunt onto their own, every one is a different and unique experience, even if I don't fill my tag or bag anything. I don't need someone to hold my hand, cook my meals, and tell me which animal to shoot.  My tag dictates what animal I shoot.  But then again I live in the lower 48 and hunt deer, pronghorn, elk, ducks, geese, and pheasant for their meat. 

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Amen I can see your point

Amen I can see your point. I live in va and me and my daughter have been to Alaska on a diy black bear hunt,and also to Wyoming on a diy Pronghorn, but we have also been to Canada on a guided black bear hunt. They were all great. Not because we where successful or not or guided or not. But because of the time together and the Memories, and the things we got to experiences. My point is that I dont mind paying someone for the use of their facilities,their knowledge and their know how or even for the right to hunt their property or unit what really gets me is that they are charging me an outrageous price  just for the right to hunt that animal. I have as much of a right to hunt as they do. But because I dont live in that state they are dening me that right? Well they are not dening me they are robbing$ ME OF THAT RIGHT.

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