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Hunting shows and regs

I'm sitting here right now on Saturday July 23, 2011 at 11:16am watching a show called In the Woods with Ron & Jerry.  The show is pretty good, but this episode is claimed to be hunted in Durango, Colorado.  I'm watching these guys shoot non-wary elk with rifles in what appears to be late summer, too early for rifle season. Can't say for sure, but the broadleaves haven't even began to change color yet in this episode and I'm pretty sure this episode was filmed outside of rifle season.  Furthermore I see nobody meeting the requirments in Colorado for 500 sq-in if blaze orange.  One guy has a blaze hat, the rest of the cast is rifle hunting in all camo.  Hmmmm.....begenning to wonder if these guy were aware of the regulation here in Colorado???  Why would anyone film while not following the regs?  Wonder if the DOW ever monitors these shows.  I occasionally see rules and regs being broken routinely on a few hunting shows. Any thoughts by the rest of you guys?

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They were hunting at Elk

They were hunting at Elk Research Institute which I believe is no more than a high fence elk farm.  So as far as far as following the Colorado regs they don't have to. 

I have also watched a few of these kind of shows myself and wonder just how they are getting away with what they are doing.  Now in real life the only one that is required to wear hunter orange is the hunter himself.  Guides, packers, cameramen, and who ever else who is with him do not need to wear it.  This is one thing that I think that the Division of Parks and Wildlife need to address.  For some reason that new name just doesn't fit right. 

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regs

I'm sure the regs are pretty clear.  They were hunting, research institute or not, they were biggame hunting.....well actually looked more like shooting elk in a fish barrel to me, but regardless.  Maybe there are exception to the regs.  I thought it was a pretty good show myself, just something that caught my eye about the use of blaze.

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High fence hunting areas are

High fence hunting areas are not subject to the states hunting rules and regs.  They can hunt them 365 days a year with what ever method that they will allow.  It is no different than the ranches that offer bison hunts or hunts for exotics. 

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This reminds me of a Thompson

This reminds me of a Thompson Center catalog I had quite a few years ago that had an add for one of thier muzzle loaders with the picture of a woman who had taken a nice naimal in Colorado with one and it clearly stated her load with a sabot bullet. Since that is not legal in that season I always wondered if it got checked out. It is possible of course she used the gun in a rifle season but it didn't say so.

Second thing is I have been surprised to speak to a couple of game wardes out in hunting season wearing only tan tan colored clothes while hiking around checking tags. I thought that was kind of strange but didn't ask them why. I suppose they didn't want to be spotted but it still doesn't seem very wise.

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fenced

Well I knew that Bison are not regulated nor the responsibility of the DOW, so I understand that being different, there are no tags available for Bison.

I guess ranching for wildlife is similar.  If these are farmed or ranch raised elk I suppose the dow can't claim to regulate them.  Would be nice if these shows would make it clear before to the viewer. 

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that's exactly what the shows don't want you to know

They don't want the average guy to know they are hunting in a fenced operation.  They generally do this because they can't afford to go on a guided hunt and not kill something big, which is a risk you run with truly wild animals.  They'll tell you where they are so they don't feel like they are being deceptive, allowing you to look the place up.

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I've gathered that

Yeah I've gathered that from watching these shows.  This show seemed okay, but it just seemed way too easy for elk hunting.  In fact it was like watching.....well...like watching someone shoot fenced cattle one right after the other on a ranch.  Just seemed way off when it comes to elk hunting.  I've hunted elk for over 25 years and I know it rarely come that easy in the wild.

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Could be worse.  They could

Could be worse.  They could be doing all that, and then you could also see a video with them, and a chain link fence in the background... lol

Who was that, Jimmy Houston or someone like that.

As the guys said, they just don't want people to know they are hunting high fenced areas.  The laws treat them essentially like cattle ranches.  We have a place out here that I could go shoot a hog or other exotics, and don't even need a license. They buy the animals from a farm, and it's 400 acres.  You pay, basically to go harvest your meat.

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