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Hunting shows

I watch alot of the broadcast TV hunting shows before season starts. I want to know why the MAJORITY of them are on Deer? And does anybody else think they could be more educational? My other question is do you use a tree stand or do spot n stalk? I hunt mainly Elk but am going to try and draw Deer next year. Iam asking to get opinions and learn more of the pursuit on Deer. Thanks for reading and your replies.

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I think it has a lot to do with the major sponsors of those shows being in the food plot business, and that turns out to be perfect for deer hunting.  Also Elk hunting is a lot more work than deer hunting is, so maybe it's easier and more cost effective to film whitetail hunts from a tree stand than it is to film elk hunts.  I prefere spot and stalk myself.  I don't use tree stands, that's just not how we hunt out west. 

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I'll start by saying, I hunt

I'll start by saying, I hunt whitetail deer out of stand the majority of the time I hunt. In some counties of the state, it's illegal too shoot from the ground. The hunter must be elevated at least 8 feet off the ground b4 firing a rifle, ml, or shotgun. So no spot and stalk in those counties.

I'm guessing the majority of shows are on whitetails for a few reasons. 1st is they can be hunted in many more states than elk or mule deer. 2nd is the success rate is higher for whitetails. 3rd is they are easier to hunt and film than elk or mule deer for the most part. 4th is there are more whitetails hunters in the US than elk/mule deer hunters. Not every hunter wants or is able to go elk/mule deer hunting. Another reason may be that the hunting seasons are longer for whitetails. Bow season starts here in mid Sept and gun season does end until the 1st of Jan. I have 4 buck tags and can get an unlimited amount of doe tags. I will hunt from 11 Sept until 1 Jan. I'll probably shoot 2-3 bucks and just as many mature does as I can. Most elk/mule deer "seasons" will be one week to 3 weeks depending on how many tags the hunter has. And these reasons are not in any order, just as they came into my thought process.

Basically, the sponsors know they reach more people, make more sales if they target their biggest market, which is whitetail hunters. I agree with you, I'd like to see more elk and mule deer shows. Anybody or sponsor out there want to finance a new hunting show? We can call it Big Game Hunt if it's all right with the owner of the site.

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ecubackpacker, not to get off subject or anything but I'm just curious as to why spot and stalk is illegal in some counties of your state?  In some eastern states and midwest states they don't allow high powered rifles to hunt biggame, only shotguns and archery, but I've never heard of there being a ban or restriction on "spot and stalk". Do they think it's unsafe or something? I've hunted in most states in the western, pacific northwest, and southwestern part of the country and "spot and stalk" is still the main method used ou here.  What you said is just interesting to hear.  I can't see why there would be any legitimate reason to make a hunter be at least 8 ft off the ground before he can kill a deer.  Of course now that I think about it the eastern US and the south are heavily wooded in most areas and heavily populated in some areas.  Maybe that's why?

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Think the other gentlemen nailed it regarding the reasons. No offense to the whitetail hunters but I always do throw a drag when I turn it to the hunting channels hoping for a good show and it's another whitetail show. To me they are boring to watch seeing a guy sit in a tree and wait for the deer to walk by and shoot. It's like watching the same show over and over and over. And, most of the tv hunters on those shows act the same and say things like "I smoked him". Same goes for the bears on bait piles, kinda makes me feel sorry for the bear. I do love a good Western mulie or elk hunt with hardcore guys roughing it like Eastmens.

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It is interesting in that

It is interesting in that they say that whitetails are harder to hunt than a mule deer, but as you say all the shows are about whitetail hunting.  From what I have seen a whitetail is alot easier to pattern than a mulie so that makes hunting them from tree stands a lot easier.  All you need to do is see where one is crossing the fence to go to your feed plot and set up a stand.  Also out west we don't have the same type of trees that they have in the midwest or east.  So you can either put your tree stand up in a evergreen witch will drip sap all over you all day or a quakie and get under you cammo to wait for the critter to show up.   

I alway thought that it was interesting in that after the shot the hunter is still wispering to the camera man after the deer has been hit and ran off a hundred yards as if it was going to make a difference. 

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Western, yes it is illegal in

Western, yes it is illegal in some counties to shoot from the ground partly b/c of the dense population, but also b/c of a lot of dog hunters. They want the hunters to be elevated to get a downward angle when they shoot. Spot and stalk isn't illegal but unless you carry around a treestand on your back, it's a difficult proposition. Besides, most of the hunting land is too thick to spot and stalk unless you're on a huge tract of land where you can see an animal in the distance. But most areas in the eastern part of the state have some unbelieveably dense thickets. You can't see a man 5 feet away once he steps into the thicket. For example, in the 80's, there was a Marine recon patrol that had to call for helicopters to lift them out of the pocosin b/c they couldn't navigate through it.

 Most people only have, at the most, a couple of hundred acres to hunt. If you are willing to pay to get in a hunting club, you may have more land to hunt. But some of the timber companies that own that land put more restricitions on hunting their land. Some companies don't allow high power rifles at all, just shotgun, ML and archery.

I firmly believe whitetails are easier to hunt than elk/mule deer. And yes, it can be boring a lot of the times. But, it's the only big game I can hunt here.

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ecubackpacker wrote:

I firmly believe whitetails are easier to hunt than elk/mule deer. And yes, it can be boring a lot of the times. But, it's the only big game I can hunt here.

Ecu, I hear you 100% if'n that's where I lived that's how I'd hunt. I just grew up hunting the West and it is what I love. I feel just as far as excitement goes to watch on TV hunts over food plots or from tree stands is boring. Actually doing it would be better I reckon. A Western hunt on tv is just a little more exciting to me.

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Thanks for pointing that out Ecubackpacker.  It's not that I didn't believe you I was just curious, but it makes sense.  It's understandable given the population in the south and east and of course the density of the woods.  Living in Colorado I often forget just how dense the population is east of the Mississippi River.  Though I often complain about how overcrowded I think my state is getting in recent years.

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Yea, yall are the lucky guys.

Yea, yall are the lucky guys. One day I'll be out there. I love the state, scenery and the different hunting opportunities.

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I understand promotion the of

I understand promotion the of PLOT products. For me the pursuit in the spot n stalk is the best. Spot an animal and see if you can outsmart the beast and get the harvest. For me I just dont see the point of sitting over a plot(bait field) and waiting for the deer to come eat and then taking the shot. Please know that Im NOT trying to offend anyone by what I have said!! For me personally I have more and get more satisfaction out of the SnS even going home empty. But back to my original question Why not more Elk, Big Horn, Antelope, Caribou hunts on TV and why so many deer hunting trips televised?

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