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The question is

True, the majority of American are still not opposed to hunting, even if most don't hunt anymore.  But the question is - for how long will these majority not be opposed to hunting?  Just observe the ideals and philosophies being forced on our youth today by the liberal media, publications, and by school teachers.  I'm amazed as to how many younger vegans and animal rights activists I come across these days and how much more of that is being encouraged and depicted in tv shows and movies.  I'm talking school age kids here, something like 10 year old kids making their own decisions to become vegans based on animal rights philosophies.  It's even hard to find people from my generation who hunt or are at least not opposed to it.  Just as hard to find people my age who've even shot a firearm before and I'm just under 40.  What will the youth of today be like when they reach my age now?  What things will they be ademently opposed to that we enjoy today?

I'm even finding in my state that some of our State Wildlife Areas that were traditionally used for hunting and paid for by hunters and anglers are now more suitable for joggers, bird watchers, and dog walkers than they are for hunting due to the amount of development going on around them.  Some of these areas have been taken completely over by non-hunting nearby residence for other recreational uses, making hunting and fishing in these areas very difficult if not impossible. And these new users seem to think they have more rights on those lands than hunters do.  Confused

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Well Said Western Hunter.

Well Said Western Hunter. Best we can do it promote our sport in a positive light and get as many folks involved, especially the younger folks. I agree mainstream TV and movies have gone very far to the left. Also the Anti’s and animals rights folks spend millions on advertisement spreading half truths or totally  false statements while we flip the bill and are the true conservationists.  Just look at what happened to our spring bear hunt in Colorado! When I was a scout master I would teach the kids and parents why hunting is a good thing, how weapons work and not to fear them but respect them. I talk to everyone I can and promote sound game management which includes hunting.

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Western Hunter and SGM, thank

Western Hunter and SGM, thank you for sharing.  I too have seen the younger generation moving away from our hunting heritage and traditions.  My son now 11 was influenced by a friend in the neighborhood.  He said to me back in the beginning of summer, "Dad I'm not sure if I want to hunt anymore."  I was shocked.  Then after a day or two I asked him why he felt that way.  Girl down the street didn't like it because she's a vegetarian but eats chicken. (ok?)  I told Jonah, "That's fine if you don't want to hunt anymore but let it be your decision and not because you want to impress someone that has no idea what they are talking about."  Well later my Daughter who has been gun shy since I took her hunting when she was 10 in Northern Maine is now ALL about some firepower fun.  Now 15yrs old Emily just wants to make sure that her buck is bigger than Jonah's.  So that's my focus this year.  The gauntlet was thrown to the ground because Jonah is back on board and they're arguing over dates to hunt.  It was good conversation at the supper table last night.  Next thing I hear is my daughter taking about moon phase and I almost choked.  I asked where she heard the term,”Your magazines in the bathroom" she said.  Too funny.  So I have bow season and my children have gun season and the rut. 

Thanks again.  Hope you both enjoy your season this year.  I happened to catch a Bucks of Tecomate show Friday night with one of the hosts in Eastern Colorado hunting whitetails the real way.  Lots of big bucks out there crazy what he was passing on.  Little different hunting then when they’re standing in a sendarro feeding on scattered corn during filming for their show.  LOL

 

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Swisher, sounds like you have two great kids and you have taught them well. All we can do as parents and hunters is teach, promote and defend our sport so that our kids, grand kids or others can enjoy the sport and the great outdoors as we have. My granddaughter will be getting her hunters safety card soon. She is not sure if she wants to hunt yet but her knowing the true about hunting, conservation and sound wildlife management will pay dividends down the road. My gut feeling is that grandma and grandpa will get her out a few times. Good luck to you and your family this year and lets see some pictures after the hunt.

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The original poster is exactly right in his conclusion

 I am certainly in no way opposed to what you describe as ‘fair chase’ but if you have ever tried hunting bear over bait, you might not agree that it is easy for everyone.  I have tried it twice and while I did see one small bear, I never had a chance at a shooter bear.  You can find the details in a story I wrote called ‘Learning to Hunt Bear’ posted in the story section of this website.  

Western Hunter is right that as long as a hunter is hunting ethically and legally we shouldn’t knock anyone’s method of hunting, but   the original poster raised a valid concern about where the line between ethical and unethical hunting practices lay.  Is a food plot any different than hunting for deer in an alfalfa field planted as hay fro horses or dairy cattle?  How about a corn field that has already been harvested but still has plenty of corn on the ground dropped by the harvester?  How about in or near a commercial apple orchard or a wheat field?  How about in a grove or oak trees with the ground covered by acorns or beech trees dropping beechnuts?  No one would thing that is unethical.  We hunt the game where the game is.  Game lives where they eat and sleep.  To propose that hunting over a food source is unethical is as ridiculous as saying that hunting them where they sleep is unethical.  You might as well say that hunting where the animal is breathing oxygen is unethical.

After all the debate - Swisher outdoors (the original poster) is exactly right in his conclusion that so long as the hunting method is legal then we should support our fellow hunters. Thumbs up Yes

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I agree to support all typs

I agree to support all typs of unting as long as it's legal. We need to promote and defend our traditions. Oregon has a very similair law, we can bait deer/elk but we cannot bait bears or cougars. It seems kind of silly but it was a law past by the voter's in Oregon back in 1996. I personaly don't bait or attract deer or elk as I like to spot and stalk or still hunt. Baiting doesn't always mean it's going to be a slam dunk hunt. The only time I will use attractents is in the spring when I have my trail cams out.

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