good point critter can't have enough rope or blue tarps
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Mon, 2010-07-19 08:39#11
good point critter can't have
Mon, 2010-07-19 15:15#12
hunting camp advice
if your camping close to a road I would set up two 16x20 canvas wall tents.........one for cooking and one for sleeping. Wood stove for heat are the best,small barrel stoves work good........you could use it for cooking too or propane 3-burner cook tops work the best.....a good sturdy cot with a good thick pad works best for sleeping too. Fold-up chairs and a long table for sitting, eating and card games or whatever...........good luck!
Thu, 2010-07-22 19:24#13
If you buy a tent be shure it's white the dark army type soak up the light from the lanturns and are always dark.5' walls are a must 4' walls suck , if you have one custom ordered add a window with a screen and clear plastic on the back wall you will be glad you did. A poly tarp over any type of tent really helps to shed snow ,a cover of some type to create a front porch is very nice to store coolers,gear ect and helps a lot to keep snow and mud from getting tracked inside.A used piece of carpet is a nice touch then throw it out each year.Cots are great because every one can store their gear under it to free up floor space, a foam pad or heavy blanket is a must to stay warm.Hint...cot,airmattres then foam pad and a great bag , a good sleep can not be over rated when hunting hard. I like wood, free to burn and good for heating wash water then we use a gas duck blind heater at night just to keep the frost off not to really heat ,boy scout in a can to start the wood burner is great ,screw paper and small kindling .Good luck stay warm and have fun!!
Fri, 2010-07-23 00:29#14
My 2 cents: for what it is
My 2 cents: for what it is worth, started as a wrangler and moved up to guide for an outfitt in Wyoming.
Base camp at 9500ft, 3 hours on horse back to get thereL: Canvas wall tent is the only way to go (search the web for the one you like). Cook tent must have 5ft walls, find one with an awaning or make on for the front of the cook tent. we packed a propane stove/oven from an old camper up there and it worked great for cooking in the morning.
Sleeping tent 4ft walls (less space to heat) get a stove with a water tank on the side, a cup of coffee is great when you wake up and get going to that cold cook tent. I did not see anything about plastic on the ground, used black plastic before laying down the tarp (canvas), then use min, 4" thick foam pad, cots take up to muck room. 12'X14" will get 7 people friendly, you wood buring stove will take a lot of room.
Frame: we used lodge pole "A" frame (had the lodge poles standing right there). GET the internal frame. the blue tarps they are talking about do work very well as a rain fly or snow slide, get them 2-4 ft bigger than your tent.
best of luck
Sat, 2010-07-24 21:32#15
I had to lk though serveral
I had to lk though serveral photo books and still did not find the photo's I wanted, But here is a photo of the Cook's tent, you can see the blue tarp with front overhang, then the other photo's of trip in, pen and 2 elk both 4X4's
Sun, 2010-07-25 17:23#16
I would go with 10 or 12 oz
I would go with 10 or 12 oz canvas if your not planning on packing it in past the road. If you want to pack the tent look at a blend or relite material. I would also recommend getting a touch bigger than you think you'll need. It makes it nice to have a bit of extra room espically when you have a bunch of close friends crammed in that you might not be so friendly by the end of the hunt if you are like sardines
Thu, 2010-07-29 14:15#17
We've used canvas tents,
We've used canvas tents, heavy duty nylon tents, and a camper. The camper blows everything else out of the water - no comparison. It has a hot shower, built in heat, refrigerator/freezer (great during warmer bow seasons) and a small TV to watch how-to hunt videos. (They never seem to help though). The con about the camper is you are really limited to where you can trailer and park the thing. A few out of state hunters I've met, drive to CO and rent one locally on their way to camp.
The canvas tents are nostalgic and offer a memorable hunt. They can be warm if the stove is stoked with wood. Any wood stove needs to be stoked every few hours and no one in my group likes getting up at 1:00am to put more wood in. Makes for a really cold tent in the AM. (Our water froze every night during 2nd season hunts in CO.) The morning is the worst in terms of heat or lack thereof. If you relight the stove when you get up, the tent will just be getting warm as you leave for the trail at 4:30am. A propane heater could be priceless for the mornings to warm the tent quickly and turn it off when you leave.
Typical canvas tents do not have a floor which is good and bad. It's good because you don't have to worry about getting the floor dirty or muddy and, well, that's really the only good thing. In the morning there isn't any place to stand with bare feet and get dressed without getting muddy/dirty. (Bring a small carpet piece.) Mice were a HUGE problem for us in a canvas tents. Put ALL your food in Tupperware containers with snap on lids. The containers also keep your food dry if any rain or snow gets in the tent...and it will. Canvas tents without floors, let snow and wind in under the walls. Whenever it snowed we shoveled the snow to be deeper at the base of the walls to prevent drafts and more snow blowing into the tent. We've also had mice crawl over our sleeping bags while we were sleeping. FYI, a 10mm makes a very loud noise in a tent when taking care of mice at midnight.
A separate cook tent is a good idea if you have more than 2-3 people, and oh yah, if you're in an area with bears. Some wood stoves have water tanks you can attach to the sides of the stove. They sound great in principle and the hot water is nice to have, but damn, they steam the inside of the tent and they make drying clothes difficult. The inside of the tent is always humid and lockerroom like smelly. After two days of the hot water tanks, we never used them again.
I bought a Cabelas Big Horn II and it's been awesome for tent hunt camps. It's big, has a floor with a removable spot for a stove, and comes with its own poles. It takes about an hour to set up with the vestibule (which is highly recommended). The nylon fabric seems warmer than canvas and sheds snow well. The only thing about the Big Horn is the stove must be placed at the back of the tent. Obviously not designed by someone who had to carry in the wood with muddy shoes.
Whatever you choose, good luck to you. It will be a memorable experience.
We bring a 3x5 cement board (used for slate/tile applications sold at Home Depot) and set the stove on it. I levels the stove really well and offers great fire protection should a hot ember fall out of the stove.
Sun, 2010-08-08 20:17#18
thats for all the advice
thats for all the advice guys, now i will have something to take to our prehunt meeting with the other guys i will be going with. looking forward to october. here is my camp in SE ohio at a whopping 900ft elevation. little different from where we will heading in CO. thanks.
notice the lack of trees behind the camper in the spring pic. clearcut a butt ton of woods, needless to say i am not going back there this year.
Wed, 2010-08-11 16:43#19
Location: From Grand Junction CO, stationed in Arizona
I for one am a fan of Coleman
I for one am a fan of Coleman tents, I have used them for years and they have proven themselves in some harsh Colorado weather. I use one of the 8 to 10 person tents for 4 to 6 people on cots or air mattresses. The 8 to 10 on the box is estimated for midgets I think. So with you having 7 people in your party you would need 2 Coleman tents. I also use a cook tent made from a 10x10 ez-up shelter with the wind walls. A few comfort items you might bring along are some folding camp chairs and a folding table. That a little bit about what I use.
If you are made of money and space in the truck isn’t an issue then I would recommend a larger wall or cabin tent. (I don’t have the money, that’s why I use the Coleman’s)
Here are some pictures from two of my camps. 5 hunters in the fist 3 pictures and 7 people on a family camping trip in the last 2 pictures.
Wed, 2010-09-01 17:30#20
A hammoc and horseshoe set
A hammoc and horseshoe set are a must in our base camps.