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Location: Washington State
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Has anyone hunted the timberlands owned by Rayonier in Western WA for elk and deer? I saw the Rayonier booth at the WA Sportsman's show in Puyallup and they were offering leases as they do in the SE (FL, GA, etc.). Does anyone have any thoughts about this, good or bad, that they could share with me on this? I'm not familiar with these lands.

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Location: Eatonville, Wa
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All of their leases are on the coast more or less. Ive heard both sides of it some guys say its swampy and really thick brush and then some say that it was worth the money. Ive thought about it but its a 2 hour drive for me and for the money, Id just assume take a few more days off and hike in on public land.

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I am not that familiar with them, back when the Kapowsin area was owned by Champion I paid the access fee. When it became Rayonier I no longer hunted there. ( I think now it is Hancock) But are you talking about actual leases of access fees? The areas are good hunting if there is limited entry but all too often there is still a lot of people still no matter what what they charge. The benifit is with private land ther is not very much garbage and gates keep the "natives" from overharvesting and result in better opportunity.

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stiknstringbow, Rayonier is actually offering "recreational" leases which include camping, hunting, etc. for a calendar year. The units are from 300 to 1200 acres each and they are from Ilwaco up almost to Forks . They said that this is their first year of offering leases on their WA lands.

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These leases are a bad deal but they are a sign of the times. WIth WA hunters being kicked off public land during August we will see more of the private land leases. Sad for sure.

I have hunted a lot of Rayonier land on the coast and there are a few that hold some elk. More deer then anything.

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billythekidrock, I understand your point. I'm originally from TX and there you can hardly hunt unless you get a lease or know someone with property. I think it's also a sign of economic hard times for companies and how people are going to have to adapt to overpopulation. Sorry, that's another subject. So, I'm not so inclined to say it's a bad thing if a private land owner offers hunting leases. I'm not sure about what I'll do, but I know that I don't like hiking in 11 miles and finding more hunters than animals like I did last year. Road hunting is something I will never get used to, either.

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Location: washington state
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This whole thing is a bunch of crap. The fact that a timber company is charging people to hunt on their land is rediculous. Funny how they are paying approx $1000 per year in property taxes on 500acres but yet can sublease that property for a profit. I think their taxes should be raised to what a commercial property tax should be and I think you would see the pay to hunt issue go away quickly. Make them pay 2-5 million a year in property tax like a similar business would in that acreage area and see what they do. With more and more private land owners denying public access we will soon see everything pay to hunt or very little or no hunting at all. The state legislators need to investigate this very thuroughly. If this is being leased out as recreational land for camping and such. The Zoning of that property should also be changed from timberland to commercial or Resort. Not to mention some of their land backs up against walk in areas and there is no back gate. The leasers would be able (not leagally) to drive into the walk in areas. You can't tell me they won't, whether it be day or night, you know they will. That will mess up the hunting for everyone. Rayonier has done a great injustice to Washington State and the whole hunting community by Leasing their land for hunting parties.

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This whole thing is a bunch of crap. The fact that a timber company is charging people to hunt on their land is rediculous. Funny how they are paying approx $1000 per year in property taxes on 500acres but yet can sublease that property for a profit. I think their taxes should be raised to what a commercial property tax should be and I think you would see the pay to hunt issue go away quickly. Make them pay 2-5 million a year in property tax like a similar business would in that acreage area and see what they do. With more and more private land owners denying public access we will soon see everything pay to hunt or very little or no hunting at all. The state legislators need to investigate this very thuroughly. If this is being leased out as recreational land for camping and such. The Zoning of that property should also be changed from timberland to commercial or Resort. Not to mention some of their land backs up against walk in areas and there is no back gate. The leasers would be able (not leagally) to drive into the walk in areas. You can't tell me they won't, whether it be day or night, you know they will. That will mess up the hunting for everyone. Rayonier has done a great injustice to Washington State and the whole hunting community by Leasing their land for hunting parties.

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I used to hike in on closed roads West and Northwest of Forks. Those were good times. What's this about being kicked off public lands in August? A lot has changed since I left in '94.

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Not very much public land out there anymore. Most that you may have thought to be public was probably owned by a timber company. Now they sublease their property for a commercial profit, not paying property taxes on the actual usage on that property. Its going away quickly. Seeing the conditions that the log trucks leave the highways in maybe there should be a large per truck fee from the timber companies for every truck entering public highways. Why should our tax money pay for their destruction. I guess he with the most money and clout tend to win.

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I'm certain I was on national forest land, but it's always been hard to tell when you leave forest service land to forest service land leased to logging companies, to logging land bought up on the edge of the forest space unless the timber company uses locked gates (which were very common all over the Sequim area when I was out there).

It's sad this is happening.

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