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Yesterday I found one of the all time cool guns in the back corner of a gun shop. It's an original Newton action from the 19-teens chambered in .30 Newton. It hasn't even been drilled and tapped for a scope, it seems original in every way except one.... some knucklhead in the 60s or 70s decided to paint a white outline in the checkering border. I'm pretty sure I can remove it without real damage.
Price is about half of what I've seen on gunbroker. Brass is available (at $3 a pop), dies can be ordered.
Now the question, would you hunt with it? I've got other guns I can hunt with, but would you ever take a gun like that out? .30 Newton is a powerful round, the gun seems pretty light and handles nicely. The metal work is very well done to surprisingly closer tolerances. I'm buying it on Monday, unsure of whether or not I'll keep it for myself or sell it when I get my FFL in a few weeks. Would you keep it as a potential heirloom?
There were only 4,000 of these guns built, so they're obviously very rare, probably more so in one of the original Newton calibers like .256, .30, .33, .35 or .400.
And for further background, Charles Newton is the guy who designed the .250-3000 Savage and .22 Hi-Power.

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Shoot it?... yes. Hunt with it?... no. I'd have to shoot it atleast once to say I have but it is obviously a treasure and piece of firearm history to be treated as such. Post some pics when you get it. Great find! Thumbs up

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I'd take it hunting in a situation where I know it wouldn't get exposed to bad weather or dragged through limbs. Like maybe hunting on the edge of a pasture or field on a sunny day.

I would definitely take it to the range! Big smile

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Shoot it, and hunt with it. Why not? I view all guns as I view any other tool, some may be prettier and shinier than others, but in the end they are all made to be used. Guns are made to be fired. If it's a safe gun in good working order. Enjoy it while you're here on earth, because you can't take it with you when you die.

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Something came up today, I'll buy the gun tomorrow. I think I will hunt with it, and I will not put a scope on it.. Gonna leave her as is, just clean up the white borders, hopefully without damaging the original finish. But even so, I'm not buying it to resell, I'm buying it for myself.

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There are some products for restoring antique furniture that will remove the grime and paint without removing the original stain. It's made by Formby's I think. There is probably others also.

I'm not an expert but I don't think stocks back then were varnished. Just oiled occassionally with linseed oil or waxed.

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Removing paint off a a stock that has a linseed oil finish is a bit more tricky and more difficult that if the stock had been finished with a smooth Varnish or Tung Oil. While linseed oil provides in my opinion a very good finish, it tends to allow certain things to adhear to the surface better than a sealed varnish finished gun.

If you can't live with that white boarder then you could consider having the whole stock refinished. Putting a new linseed oil finish on a walnut stock is pretty staight forward and not tricky at all. It just requires careful preparation of the wood and a lot of patience afetrwards. I've done it with a few stocks and forends and was always very happy with the results. Boiled linseed oil soaked into bare unfinished American walnut and allowed to dry results in a reddish-brown color that no stain out there can duplicate. Take a look at all those old pre WWII Springfields and you'll see what I mean.

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Bought the gun today!
The stock has been refinished once already, so I have no qualms about redoing it now that I've had another look at her. But I am certain the wood is original due to the complexity of inletting this action, how tight the wood is, and how amateurish the refinish job was. The barrel may also have been cut down, as it is only 20 inches instead of the standard 24, has a Marble's front sight and the rear sight covers some of the barrle stamping.
But all the serial numbers I can find match and get this: it's #272!. 4,000 were built between 1916 and 1918 before the company went Tango Uniform.
I'm not sure the clerk knew what he was dealing with, and started to wonder whether he was on the losing end of this deal. He began to write "no serial number" in the application, before I pointed it out to him in two places, then his draw dropped to the floor and he began asking me questions about it. Prior to that I was playing dumb with him and asking him questions about the history of the piece, and he was way off. neener!
Here she is, plain as hell, but a significant piece of gun history:




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You're right. That white paint has got to go!

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Got yourself a real beauty, but that white boarder has to go, looks real 70's retro man. Still a beautiful rifle and a nice piece of history to won. If you ever need replacement sights, Marbles is still in business and I believe still makes sights.

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I've got most of the white off by going over the border with a checkering tool. I'm going to strip that 70s era finish off too. I'll throw another picture up in a week or two.

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