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How to tell the difference?

They sure cut out a lot of black tail country bt at least it is a line easily defined!

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The powers that be at P&Y have flawed logic, you're example about bagging a buck in Woodburn is perfect. There's no doubt that some mixing goes on. This summer fighting wildfires I saw two blacktail near Mt Bachelor. That's one hell of a trek to gat back to West side winter range. So I accept that blacktails mix with Mulies on the East side. What is more questionable is whether Mulies winter on the West side. I'm sure it has probably happened. However I doubt it is so common as to rule out every deer between I-5 and the crest. Another question would be why stop at I-5? A deer could easily cross and spread Mulie genes all the way to Gold Beach. I just don't see a sound reason for picking the interstate as the boundary. IMHO.

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If you put a Blacktail head and a Mule (deer) head on the wall and it was a big Blacktail and an average Mule, how would you know the difference if nobody told you? I've shot Blacktails as big as our average Mule deer over here. And body wise, our deer here only run about 120# with exceptional one's 150 and up.

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I don't know how P&Y made their detemination on Blacktail range but, having hunted them in California. Their range in Ca. may very well have been the factor for the eastern border of their range.

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is there actually a unit where you have to determine it to be a blacktail instead of a mule deer?
we have units in washington where there are whitetails and mule deer, and some seasons you can only shoot a whitetail, but thats an easy determination.
i guess if you're hunting a unit, it's either officially going to be blacktails or mule deer, not both, so i'm not sure how you could be cited or ticketed for shooting a mule deer in a blacktail unit.

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In Washington. If it is west of the peak of the Cascades. It's a Blacktail.

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I guess thats kind of what i meant...is that not the case where he wants to hunt???

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I'm not sure where he's looking to hunt. All I understood was a concern in taking a Mulies as apposed to a Blacktail.
Mulies are typically inland and Blacktail run the coast. Much like the Grizzly, Brown Bear and Polar Bear. They are the same critter but, through the ages have relocated and adapted.

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"mulies have a tail about 7 1/2 inches long and it is rope like with a black tip plus it is surrounded by a white rump patch"

Over in our parts there is both... This is the key for me. I ran into a little guy - here is a photo of him and his backside. If you see black on the tail and it does not look like this you're looking at a blacktail deer. I think this guy was a yearling.

hope this helps for a visual. I completely understand the confusion here.

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oh by the way....

i never hunted that little guy - just with a camera.

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