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Bottom line.

Obama got elected by voters, 9 million more of them than voted for McCain Pailin. 7% in presidential politics is considered big. Dems also swept the Congress and Senate. Americans reject the Republican extremist brand.

Get over it, or cling to guns and religion.

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Funny how in your world the only facts that are valid are the ones your leader agrees with.

It's interesting to note your violent objection to asking about a Tina Fey quote -- but you're missing the point. These people know negative info about Palin in intimate detail, but are so ignorant that they don't know pertinent information about their own candidate or anything at all about government. These are people who bought into Obama based only on style devoid of substance.

And by the way -- 52-48 is four percent, not 7.

And once again, your "get over it" comment suggests what so many people have issues with -- the Democrat idea that if you disagree with them, you should just shutup and accept it. No room for dissent or opposing views whatsoever. Now who's the tyrant?

And you really need to stop throwing the race card over everything. For one thing, it dilutes the issue and is an insult to King's memory. For another, it's intellectually weak. And finally, it increases racial resentment because people get tired of being accused of racism every time they try to engage in political discussion. If anything will lead to an increase in racial extremism, it'll be people frustrated because they feel they're excluded from political debate by those who call them "racist" no matter what they do.

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Civetcat, why do you think he is a racist? Nothing about the video says racist to me - why does it to you?

The fact that it disproportionaly shows twice as many blacks as a percentage than voted for Obama. It's obvious.

The push poll is a typical example of "truthiness" If the right wing racists can't even use true statements in their questions how do they expect us to believe them incase they actually have something relevant to say. It's not by mistake that the Republican party has become a regional party or racist reactionaries.

What facts are you talking about bitmaster? Are you the misinformed one?

Where did Obama begin his campaign?

How do we know whose policies are going to lead to the demise of big coal. How are we supposed to devine a fact from something in the future that hasn't happened yet?

Tinfoil hat time.

So, he should have excluded people because of their skin color? Isn't that racist?

Using your logic then baseball, basketball and football team owners are racist because they hire a higher number of minorities than the population percentage.

It is time for you to move beyond judging issues on skin color. Look at the content of a person's character not their skin color.

You could be racist if you looked at that video and saw race. I only saw people, albeit, poorly informed people, but people just the same. Never once did I consider their race.

Civetcat, please view people as people, not races. We all belong to the human race.

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Maybe that's the whole point. They're moving to take football away too. It is a dangerous sport you know. Not to mention I heard a kid was hurt when a football from a wild kick-off hit him square on the nose. Might have to push for nerf type balls and touch or flag. A recent you tube study showed that 8 people were very il-informed when it came to facts concerning stats and players. Of course these were die hard soccer fans from Brazil, but it shows a heavy concern to say the least.
Like I stated before, you can't get tin-foil anymore. I've switched to turtle shells.
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Zogby who conducted the racist push poll is sorry he ever did it. Won't do any more similar ones and admits that the purpose of the poll was to make Obama voters look stupid.

He said,"I also believe it was not our finest hour. This slipped through the cracks. It came out critical only of Obama voters"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15829.html

CVC I assume you are joking and recognise an attempt to portray people of one race in disproportionate numbers to actual sample sizes as being racist. Especially on a video representation where race is obvious. If not I understand and hope that you find room to grow, many parts of this election are difficult for some portions of the population to accept and come to grips with. I'm sure with time and an open mind things will be ok.

Expat 52.7 minus 45.9 = 6.8% I rounded to 7 some votes are still being counted but that looks as if that's where it will land. I do suggest you seek out a better source of information. This push poll that has now been repudiated by the pollster who conducted it is more than a little nutty to tell you the truth. Your numbers on the election are out of date. All I have to do is listen to Rush in the morning or go to his website and I can predict what you are about to post. Start using good sources and you can avoid egg on the face.

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civetcat wrote:
Zogby who conducted the racist push poll is sorry he ever did it. Won't do any more similar ones and admits that the purpose of the poll was to make Obama voters look stupid.

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Civetcat, can you ever just tell the truth? Where in your link does Zogby say he is sorry he ever did it? That is a lie, he in fact is quoted as saying the poll has value.

Where did he admit the purpose of the poll was to make Obama voters look stupid?

You just posted outright lies

"recognise an attempt to portray people of one race in disproportionate numbers to actual sample sizes as being racist"

You do realize that this sentence makes absolutely not sense - don't you? Grammar and English composition is not your strong suit is it?

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Is the implication that uneducated blacks who 'decided to finally vote', because a black man ran, the accusation? If so let me say this. While it would be foolish to say this didn't happen at all, because to be be honest I am sure it did in a few cases. But, that doesn't negate the high numbers of educated and informed, blacks, hispanics, whites, asians, mutts, and well geez plain ol Americans who voted for him.

In addition the same could be said for tons of folks who voted for Bush in past elections and Mccain in this one. For the ghetto isn't the only place that holds high numbers of people who lack education and in some cases are just plain ignorant. The rural trailer parks, hollows, small towns, across America hold plenty of people whose academic achievement pinnacle was the eight grade and no further. I've taken a look at some other forums where like this one right wingers are the norm and some folks express their opinion in a way that readily portrays a lack of education and intellect.

But, I realize making rationalizations for a reality you can't accept probably helps dull the pain. So, in that regard please carry on. Thumbs up

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Where did he admit the purpose of the poll was to make Obama voters look stupid?

In the quoted text above the link.

Here's the link to latest popular vote results. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/ Eight and a half million is a lot of votes. Reagan did better as a percentage in his second run, but then he was an incumbent as was Johnson in his landslide against Goldwater, I don't know how far back you would have to go find 7% of lopsidedness when two non incumbents were running against each other.

Sorry about the syntax and grammar spelling etc. on some web sites I pre write in Word, re write and paste. This for sure isn't one of them. I mean just who am I worried about impressing?

For me the racist element hit around mid September, sometime after the Repub convention. I used to talk to two guys who recently became citizens but still only watch Spanish language TV. LIke a lot of Hispanics they lean Republican, used to like Bush. They were reporting how the Dem convention actually had few people of color and how McCAin was likely to make it easier for them to bring family up. I was non commital but would always ask what the Spanish Language channels were reporting. The channels are owned by clear channnel, rightwing.

Then all that shouting and yelling began at the rallies. That was it for them. Overnight they became Obama voters. So went Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, almost Arizona, Texas tilted. That "Southern Strategy" just isn't working the way it used to. Kids have grown up different, they realy couln't care what you are, and they were overwhelmingly Obama's biggest block by age. Jews? I forget how much 75%. It's tough alienating so many people.

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civetcat wrote:
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Where did he admit the purpose of the poll was to make Obama voters look stupid?

In the quoted text above the link.

No it doesn't - here is the quote above the link:

He said,"I also believe it was not our finest hour. This slipped through the cracks. It came out critical only of Obama voters"

http://www.politico.com/news/s.....15829.html

So, you obviously can't read or intentionly wrote something untrue.

What about my assertion that you lied about him saying he was sorry? Care to point that out? Of course not, because it is a lie.

Why do you feel the need to lie? Why not state your opinion without tying it to false or misleading statements?

We are entitled to our opinions even when they differ. Lying makes you look foolish.

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SoCoKHntr wrote:
Is the implication that uneducated blacks who 'decided to finally vote', because a black man ran, the accusation? If so let me say this. While it would be foolish to say this didn't happen at all, because to be be honest I am sure it did in a few cases. But, that doesn't negate the high numbers of educated and informed, blacks, hispanics, whites, asians, mutts, and well geez plain ol Americans who voted for him.

In addition the same could be said for tons of folks who voted for Bush in past elections and Mccain in this one. For the ghetto isn't the only place that holds high numbers of people who lack education and in some cases are just plain ignorant. The rural trailer parks, hollows, small towns, across America hold plenty of people whose academic achievement pinnacle was the eight grade and no further. I've taken a look at some other forums where like this one right wingers are the norm and some folks express their opinion in a way that readily portrays a lack of education and intellect.

But, I realize making rationalizations for a reality you can't accept probably helps dull the pain. So, in that regard please carry on. Thumbs up

I was reading with interest and trying to understand what you wrote and pretty much agreeing with you, but then you have to get a dig in with the last paragraph. Why the need to poke?

You made some very valid points, but then you lower yourself to a petty attack.

Don't resort to the tatics of the uneducated or ignorant - take the high road and discuss the issues. You are an intelligent person - let you intelligence and wit speak for you.

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