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shooting animals at 700 yards

shooting animals at 700 yards is not hunting its shooting. if you can't get within two-three hundred yards then there is something seriously wrong with you. the longest shot i have ever taken is 125 yards. i have never failed to fill my tag so if i can do it anyone can do it.

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If you hunt enough sooner or

If you hunt enough sooner or later you are going to be presented with a shot that there is no way to get any closer to the animal that you are trying to harvest.  Now if that is 10 yards or 900 yards if you are capable along with your rifle and ammunition to make that shot then why not?  Some say that it isn't hunting, if it isn't a hunting skill that you have learned than what is it.  It isn't like you are sitting in the back of a truck with your trusty rifle on a tripod shooting at something a mile away.  Most of these shots are taken after long hours of glassing and hiking to the correct spot but the animal is just that extra 400 yards away.  I know of some hunters that shouldn't take a shot further than 100 yards but they do.  Are they any worse or better than the ones that can take a 900 yard shot and hit the kill zone time and time again?  As for me I hunt with 3 different weapons.  A compound bow, a pistol, and a rifle.  I feel comfortable shooting the bow out to 50 yards but no further.  The pistol I'll streatch to 200 yards with no problems.  Now the rifle with the loads that I have developed for one of them 800 yards is very easy to shoot a group that falls into a 3" circle and that rifle still has more knock down power at 800 yards than most deer rifles do at 100 yards. 

Now if you really want to go hunting, how about grabing a spear or a knife and go out after something that would hunt you back?  Now that is what I call a real hunt. 

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What are you shooting???

Critter wrote:

Now the rifle with the loads that I have developed for one of them 800 yards is very easy to shoot a group that falls into a 3" circle and that rifle still has more knock down power at 800 yards than most deer rifles do at 100 yards.

Good Lord Critter what hunting round are you shooting that has that kind of energy at 800 yards? 

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300 remington ultra mag. will

300 remington ultra mag. will do the trick at that range

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Critter wrote: "Now if you

Critter wrote: "Now if you really want to go hunting, how about grabing a spear or a knife and go out after something that would hunt you back?  Now that is what I call a real hunt."

I have a buddy that loves looking arrow heads and is very knowledgeable about that era of history. Well, he decides he's going to shoot a deer with an authenic Indian arrowhead and home-made bow & arrow. He makes the bow and arrows, get enough practice in to feel comfident and sure enough he shoots a doe with his setup. It was only 10 yds, but he did it. I was shocked. It took a while to track the deer, wasn't hardly any blood, but we found her.

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Me too, someday

My uncle makes his own traditional archery equipment too, including the flint arrow heads.  He has killed a couple animals with it as well.  I plan on heading into the hills one of these days and taking an animal with that kind of set up. 

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I personally think it depends

I personally think it depends on the shooter.  I would not take a shot over, maybe 400 yds at an elk, regardless of the gun.  Doesn't mean that others are not totally comfortable and capable of shooting long distances.

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Guess it is just me

I guess it is just me, but I have been trying to figure out what round shoots a 4" group at 800 yds and has as much foot lbs of energy at that 800 yds as what my common deer round .30-06 has at 100 yds and honestly I have not yet figured out which round it is.  Did look up the .300RUM and the .30-378 Weatherby and according to the latest Barnes manual neither round has the 180 nor 200 grain offering above 2000 ftlbs at 600 yds so I doubt either will have the 2500 ftlbs at 800 yds that my '06 is making at 100 with the 168 gr TSX. 

Just trying to get an understanding of what was said.

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Foot Pounds

bucmeister54 wrote:

I guess it is just me, but I have been trying to figure out what round shoots a 4" group at 800 yds and has as much foot lbs of energy at that 800 yds as what my common deer round .30-06 has at 100 yds and honestly I have not yet figured out which round it is.  Did look up the .300RUM and the .30-378 Weatherby and according to the latest Barnes manual neither round has the 180 nor 200 grain offering above 2000 ftlbs at 600 yds so I doubt either will have the 2500 ftlbs at 800 yds that my '06 is making at 100 with the 168 gr TSX. 

Just trying to get an understanding of what was said.

To clarify my statement I said most not all.  Try a .340 Weatherby with a 225 gr round at 3300fps.  I can keep that load in 3" all day long at 800 yards and usually less than 2".  If you also look at it that most hunters do not reload for hunting and will head down to the local sporting goods dealer to buy their ammo.   Also most hunters that shoot a .30-06 shoot a 150 gr factory load that is pushing 2900 fps if it is lucky.  The manufactures say that it is going 2975 fps but that is out of a factory test barrel. 

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thats some good shooting

thats some good shooting critter, 2" groups at800 yrds