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How do you feel about supporting Wal-Mart?

After several years of not selling firearms my local Wal-Mart just put them back in again. I always prefer to support a real gun shop but the closest one is over 35 miles away and costs a lot more. My Cabela's is even further at about 90 miles. I usually by bullets and most of my hunting clothes at Wal-Mart when it drops to 80% off long after the seasons end.

My big question is how do they overall stand politically?

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I really don't think of it as

I really don't think of it as a political thing at all.

Out here in California, they do cary alot of hunting stuff.  However, they stopped selling guns in all California stores, because they got sued/fined/found guilty of selling stuff to people they shouldn't have, basically because California is so screwed up with their gun laws.

So, instead of trying to fix it, it was easier to just stop selling guns.

However, in other parts of the county, hunters are their bread and butter.  They sell lots of guns to lots of people.

 

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How do you feel about supporting Wal-Mart?

Politically, the only issues I know of with Wal-mart are that unions don't like the fact that they're non-union, some folks don't like the "big box store" effect on towns, and others don't like the amount of stuff Wal-Mart buys from China.  There are also complaints about Wal-Mart strong-arming suppliers for price concessions.  IMO, they get bonus points for not giving in to extortion.  As far as Chinese stuff goes, good luck buying non-Chinese stuff anywhere.  And when it comes to strong arming suppliers, that's just capitalism.  So I've yet to see a political issue with Wal-Mart that really bothered me.  It's not like they support PETA or anything that I know of.

The reasons I avoid Wal-Mart are 1) I don't like the shopping environment, and 2) a lot of their stuff anymore is junk.  When it comes to sporting goods, there's nothing in there I'd care to stake my life on because it's weekend-camper amateur quality.  But they do generally offer good prices on firearms and ammo.  Generally, if it's a name-brand item of decent quality and Wal-Mart has it, I'll go there for the price.  Otherwise, not so much.

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You said it all there.  I

You said it all there.  I don't like shopping there either, because of the crowds, and out here, the type of people it draws.  However, they provide alot of stuff for lower income families, at a really good price. 

People may have problems with the big box stores, but they are able to keep prices low that way.

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Funny how I'm hearing the

Funny how I'm hearing the word "extortion" being used here again and it's okay because that's just "capitalism" at work!!!  Then in another thread where employeees of WI have agreed to wage and benefit concessions and have a Governor who won't even talk to them and is trying to bust their union is an okay guy because it will save taxpayers money.  It seems as this poster is one of those "me, me, me" types that are getting very prevalent here in our country, LOL!!!  Also, as long as he can get his stuff at a better price when he needs something he'll go there and who cares about the workers the company is screwing more and more all the time to the point where most of the employees are part time so the company doesn't have to pay what they should and can up their profit line even more.  Sam is probably turning over in his grave the way that company is being run nowadays!!!

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I guess this means that when you say you're done with a thread, what you mean is that you're taking it to another one.   banghead   I hate to carry a discussion across threads, but since you brought it up...

If you're referring to my comments about Wal-mart's choice of suppliers, nobody said "extortion."  Again...there's a big difference between Wal-mart making suppliers compete for their business for fiscal reasons vs police and firemen making a business comply with their political position.

Look up the definition of "extortion" and you'll see terms like "abuse of one's office or authority."  Wal-mart isn't abusing its authority as a business by making supplier decisions based on fiscal grounds.  However, it's a different matter when police and firemen throw their badges into the mix and associate their office with demands for political compliance from citizens they're sworn to protect.

I don't have a problem with boycotts by private citizens or organizations.  But I do have a problem with taxpayer funded public servants telling taxpayers that they'll turn on them  if they don't comply with political demands.  By sending those letters in Wisconsin, the unions are soiling the reputations of the people they claim to represent and driving a wedge between them and the citizenry they're charged to protect.

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Love em

I love Walmart, always have.  Shop there alot, especially lately.  Actually they sell more American made stuff than any other store out there, you just have to look for it.  I also disagree that they sell mostly junk.  Sure, some of it is, but there is actually a lot of good quality stuff to be had, again, you just have to know what to look for and what to buy to get the quality stuff.  They sell a lot of the same stuff that other quality retailers do, they just sell it at a better price point.  Spend enough time in one (like taking refuge in one during a 5' blizzard) and you'll see what I mean.  Everyone gets this bad image of Walmart because of the crowd who mostly shops there or the shopping environment.  Gee, at those prices, what more do you expect?

I don't think we need one in every neighborhood or on every corner a mile apart, but I do think they are good for this country.  Compared to other stores of it's kind they never really ever abandoned the American sportsman.  Some stores may have stopped selling firearms, but they always catered to the sportsman all along anyway.  I can't really blast them for some stores not selling firearms anymore, probably a business decision more than anything political.  I'll continue to support them. 

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Don't get me wrong on the "junk" comment.  I just spent five years in interior Alaska...I was thinking specifically in terms of hunting clothing and gear that I'd be willing to rely on 100 miles from civilization in bad conditions.  So when I look for a sleeping bag, Ozark Trails doesn't cut it.  When I look for binos, I don't want a $70 pair that will most likely fail on me.  And when I'm worried about hypothermia, I'm not wearing cotton.  Alaska's tough on gear, and for the most part Wal-mart didn't have the right stuff.

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Well Walmart won't outfit you for an expedition or for a triathlon or for any other task where you need specific reliable gear.  I was just speaking about products at walmart in general.  I buy lots of camping, fishing, and hunting stuff from walmart.  True I would not rely on much of their hunting clothing for tough extended backcountry use.  But for the money most of it hold up well enough for upland hunting or the like.  The camping equipment I've bought from walmart has served me well, some of it for almost 20 years now.  Fishing gear - I can't blast the Abu Garcia batecast gear they sell as they are the same as the ones the high end angler shops sell. I cannot blast most of the US made Coleman liquid fuels stoves and lanters they sell as they are the same as the stuff that REI, Cabelas, and Bass Pro sells and the same quality Coleman has always offered in those products.  I cannot blast the Ford Motorcraft oil and filters walmart sells as it is the exact same stuff that the dealerships sell, just less expensive.  They sell USA made Annin American Flags.  The home and kitchen appliances are just like anywhere else regarding quality.  Even their everyday clothing seems to hold up as well as the stuff from Target and Kohles, but at a fraction of the price. I even have bought a few inexpnsive decent quality hand tools and tool boxes from Walmart in the distant past and I'm usually very particular about my tools, owning mostly Snap-On, MAC, SK, Wright, and Proto hand tools, but those other cheap walmart tools have held their own just fine under hard use. Sure, there are certain things I would avoid from Walmart, but for many items I'm glad for Walmart and their prices. 

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expatriate---You responded

expatriate---You responded to my post just about the way I figured you would!  However, there is no denying the use of your word "extortion" when talking about Walmart and it's buying practices.  You need to go back and revisit your post, LOL!  To save you time here is  a quote from your post: " There are also complaints about Wal-Mart strong-arming suppliers for price concessions.  IMO, they get bonus points for not giving in to extortion."   Seeing as how you toss words around so freely to suit your agenda, it appears you don't even know what you're stating from one thread or post to the next, so I won't "carry this on" any further either!!!  However, I'm sure you'll figure out some way to try and get out of this one!  I'm really wondering if you have ever heard of the old saying: "Put up or shut up!"

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Expatriate - you responded

Either you misunderstood my post or you're really stretching things.  The extortion comment was at the end of a string of statements detailing common complaints about Wal-Mart.  "They" was introduced in response to those complaints, and refers to Wal-Mart not giving in to those who try to force unionization on them, etc.  I believed that subject referred to as "they" was self-evident, as Wal-Mart was the object being referred to in the entire argument.  I thought it was pretty straightforward, but sometimes I overestimate my audience.  Cowgal got it...why didn't you?

 

 

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