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Hey guys
I thought cowgal said something about shooting against friends and family.
You got her headed to a national title with a $10,000 rig.

cowgal
There are plenty of excellent LR rigs that are looking for a new home. Some of the shooters get a hair and need something different. Sometimes selling and sometime not selling, the "old" rig

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I quess that means you don't have one collecting dust.

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RMulhernGot 5 of 'em....but they don't collect dust! If you....had a 1000 yd. range in your backyard....do ya reckon they'd be collecting dust?? Shame on You! Thumbs up :[-X[/quote wrote:

I know mine wouldn't be collecting dust if I had your setup in the backyard. I have to travel an hour to shoot 800+ yds and that is after a bunch of paperwork. I can only shoot 1000 yds. if the range(Military range) is set up for the 50cal. and the range is empty of anybody wanting to shoot at a shorter distance. Brick Wall,)

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Lots of good info here, thanks guys!

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You got her headed to a national title with a $10,000 rig.
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Whoa!
I knew it could get pricey, but didn't realize it could be that much. Guess it all depends on the amount of customization involved. I'll be searching the local gunshops for something used! Big smile

I hear you on the longer heavier barrels Don. I generally like shooting bull barrels even in handguns. Yeah, they're much heavier, definitely need a rest or bench, but I like the stability and accuracy that comes with it.

Now I just need all this snow to melt & warm up a bit! We don't typically do much shooting through the winter months. Right now I'm digging through my old issues of American Rifleman. Hadn't paid attention to the LR shooting articles in the past. Some good info there, including listings of ranges.

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I promised myself i wouldn't get into the long range shooting debate, and to some degree I will not:
First : it can be very expensive
Seconly: Very few folks have access to extended ranges
Third: Unless you are in competition with others, you are competing with yourself.
So, if you're presently shooting a 4 " group at 300 yards, why not concentrate on getting that down to a 2 " group, or smaller.
Serious LR Shooting is difficult for most and totally out of reach for many others, I'd suggest cutting the distance and increase the enjoyment, and enjoying the results.

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Hammer1 wrote:
I promised myself i wouldn't get into the long range shooting debate, and to some degree I will not:
First : it can be very expensive
Seconly: Very few folks have access to extended ranges
Third: Unless you are in competition with others, you are competing with yourself.
So, if you're presently shooting a 4 " group at 300 yards, why not concentrate on getting that down to a 2 " group, or smaller.
Serious LR Shooting is difficult for most and totally out of reach for many others, I'd suggest cutting the distance and increase the enjoyment, and enjoying the results.

Frankly.....I'd SUGGEST....dropping this topic altogether as there's so much IGNORANCE regarding the subject.......it's a lost cause!! Buckshot....is the ORDER OF THE DAY!! Brick Wall,) Brick Wall,)

And just so you'll be aware Hammer1 regarding your statement of "Third: Unless you are in competition with others, you are competing with yourself"....I competed with MYSELF at every match I ever shot in to BEAT A PERSONAL BEST! THAT....I might add is the spirit of competition!

No....you really DO NOT NEED to delve into this subject...because as I stated above....it would be a lost cause! It's out of reach for you!!

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Rick,

I don't think it's ignorance, I think it's confussion. Most long range shooters end up telling of the deer they shot in the next county, or plan on shooting in the next county, and the ethics debate begins. Weather you believe it's ethical or not to shoot at animals at long range, you have to admit there are a lot of people that think it is not, myself included. I don't really believe that it's the long range shooting that bothers many people, it's the result that tests the skill on an animal which a good deal of us don't think is necessary. There is a difference between shooting and killing.

But I also believe that long range shooting has a very very good side effect. It makes us better a more normal game ranges! My own long range, which isn't that far is 400yds measured but I confine killing shots to much much less than that.

The confussion then is the purpose for the long range shot. Most people that take it seriously are extreamly adament at protecting their assumed right to shoot at anything legal at any range they choose and are very vocal about it. If they were not so willing to get in peoples face about it, they would greatly further their cause. Let's face it, the more people you can get shooting well at 500yds, the more people will shoot better at 200yds. The goal of shooting should be learning skills to shoot well. The goal of hunting shoild be to get close. Combine the two and you should get what most would concider reasonably close and provide a great shot as apposed to seeing how far away you can kill something. The goal of killing is to terminate a life, it should never be left to chance. I don't care how good you are at what ever range you shoot. The farther away from the barrel the bullet gets, the greater aiming factors are amplified, the more time for wind to drift a bullet and the less likely an appeared missed shot will be investigated. Also the less likely the shooter can even accurately mark the place the animal was standing when the shot was made, to go look for blood.

Shooting for sport and shooting to kill, two entirely different things.

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Don Fischer wrote:
Shooting for sport and shooting to kill, two entirely different things.

Don hit the nail on the head. I'm only interested in the shooting aspect NOT hunting.

Rick why so testy? I asked a very simple question. I may not want to shoot on your level, or compete in officially sanctioned competitions, but I'm always interested in new firearms, improving my skills and pushing my own limits.

Hammer makes valid points, it is expensive and and very few folks have ranges available to them within a reasonable driving distance. It should be apparent that LR shooting is not for everyone.

Now, lets get back on topic.

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Don Fischer wrote:
Rick,

I don't think it's ignorance, I think it's confussion. Most long range shooters end up telling of the deer they shot in the next county, or plan on shooting in the next county, and the ethics debate begins. Weather you believe it's ethical or not to shoot at animals at long range, you have to admit there are a lot of people that think it is not, myself included. I don't really believe that it's the long range shooting that bothers many people, it's the result that tests the skill on an animal which a good deal of us don't think is necessary. There is a difference between shooting and killing.

But I also believe that long range shooting has a very very good side effect. It makes us better a more normal game ranges! My own long range, which isn't that far is 400yds measured but I confine killing shots to much much less than that.

The confussion then is the purpose for the long range shot. Most people that take it seriously are extreamly adament at protecting their assumed right to shoot at anything legal at any range they choose and are very vocal about it. If they were not so willing to get in peoples face about it, they would greatly further their cause. Let's face it, the more people you can get shooting well at 500yds, the more people will shoot better at 200yds. The goal of shooting should be learning skills to shoot well. The goal of hunting shoild be to get close. Combine the two and you should get what most would concider reasonably close and provide a great shot as apposed to seeing how far away you can kill something. The goal of killing is to terminate a life, it should never be left to chance. I don't care how good you are at what ever range you shoot. The farther away from the barrel the bullet gets, the greater aiming factors are amplified, the more time for wind to drift a bullet and the less likely an appeared missed shot will be investigated. Also the less likely the shooter can even accurately mark the place the animal was standing when the shot was made, to go look for blood.

Shooting for sport and shooting to kill, two entirely different things.

Don

GO BACK....and read the title of this forum! It's LONG RANGE SHOOTING.....not.....LONG RANGE HUNTING! Many folks are HIGHLY CAPABLE of making long shots on game....and I for one do not begrudge them the capability to do so! But this forum is LONG RANGE SHOOTING.....and if that's beyond their comprehension.....the subject needs to be dropped for whatever reason! But I'm still convinced it's IGNORANCE....more than "kornfusion"!! Brick Wall,) Brick Wall,)

Oh....and as a sidebet.....I'd say there's a lot more game shot at and missed....included wounding INSIDE 200 yds. than BEYOND!! Yes Yes

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cowgal wrote:
Don Fischer wrote:

Now, lets get back on topic.

I ran into a guy at my range that said he was preparing for a 1000 yard competition. I should have asked him about it, but I was busy practicing, but the question I have is how do people prepare for long range competitions/

Do they all have 500 or 1000 yard ranges available for practice or is it unnecessary to practice at the long distances to be prepared? My range has a 200 yard target.

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cowgal wrote:
Don Fischer wrote:

Now, lets get back on topic.

I ran into a guy at my range that said he was preparing for a 1000 yard competition. I should have asked him about it, but I was busy practicing, but the question I have is how do people prepare for long range competitions/

Do they all have 500 or 1000 yard ranges available for practice or is it unnecessary to practice at the long distances to be prepared? My range has a 200 yard target.

CVC

They GO.....where a range is available! For lack of an adequate instructor.......they attend a match or events and learn OJT! There are portions of this country whereby one can shoot to ten miles.....if so inclined; Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, Texas, portions of North Louisiana, Nebraska, the Dakota's, etc. This is why I don't live 'back east'... Shame on You! Shame on You! ...which SUCKS ....IMO!!

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