Wish I could help you. We have had the same problem with some birds for the last few weeks. They eventually come our way but for whatever reason the toms see us and are uninterested. Almost like by the time they see us they are to worried about the hens they hav e with them. Hope some one her has some tips because we could use some too.
Are you walking into them in the daylight? If you are you may need to put them to bed the night before and then get into the roost area quite a while before daylight and then hope for the luck of the fly.
Yep, trying to get there before daylight. Sunday we broke a stick in teh dark and I think teh tom flew off while the hens stayed behind. Come daylight the hen just sat and purred ad clucked for half an hour before she flew off away from us. We could hear the gobblers but none would come in to that noisy hen! Darn stubborn Toms!
Nothing in hunting is ever for sure, but here are a few things to consider.
You may be getting in too close and they know that something is there and since they are extremly cautious birds, they are just choosing to go somewhere else. They face danger every day from coyotes, etc, so they are always watching for something out of place.
They may have an area in mind that they are headed to and they will go there regardless of everything else. If a turkey is headed to a spot where he has been breeding hens every morning - he may have decided that is where he is going before he even wakes up. Try to figure out where they are going and set up in between the roosting tree and that area.
Watch for factors that affect the turkeys. They are not too fond of walking through tall wet grass in the early morning, so see if you can find an unplanted field to sit along, or perhaps a trail in the woods. Have other hunters been in that area and educated them on decoys and/or calling ? Has there been predators hanging around that area all night and they are afraid of them ?
The amount of calling or the sounds that your calls are making are strange to them, and they know that something is different. Try setting up with less calling and try different calls. See if you can make one sound like the mother hen that is controlling the hens.
Try to call in the hens and not the toms. If the hens come - the toms will follow. I have had fairly good success calling in the raspy old mother hen. She seems to control things and wants to find out who that other raspy old hen is that is talking to her. The rest come along with her.
Let me start off by saying I am not a farmer.
I am a deer hunter and I do own a tractor and have all of the equipment - but that does not make you a farmer any more than standing in the garage makes you a car - well, you get the picture!
Having said that - and with most of my ineptitude fairly well hidden - I do think that buckwheat is one of the most under rated cover crops out there.
I say cover crop because I see mixed results as it relates to the deer eating the plants.