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Hornaday Leverevolution ammo

I bought a new rifle (Marlin 35 cal.) and used the new Hornaday leverevolution shells in 200 gr. I was very impressed with both the rifle and the ammo. I dropped a 10 point 250 # buck with 1 shot! Has anyone else used this ammo? What was your experience with them? I am a female hunter in northern Minnesota who has hunted for 40+ years. Yes !

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I have an older Marlin 336 in 35 Rem and used the 200gr. loads you mentioned to take a deer with this year. The bullet did well. I was also impressed with them at the range. They seemed to group well. When sighting them in, the leverevolution loads shoot about 7" high at 100 yds. compared to where the standard 200 gr. roundnose bullets where hitting. The price seems very high on them though, compared with what regular roundnose ammo is going for. Also, Hornady does not list this bullet as being available for reloading components. I'd like to load a batch of ammo with it if they ever offer it.

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Welcome to both of you.

Not being a lever fan I need to ask a question. Why do you use these Leverevolution ammo in the first place? It's always seemed to me that the rifles designed for spitzer's, the Sako Forester and the Browning BLR would be the way to go but seem's these new Hornady ammo is getting a good following. Is it just the rifle's you like?

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I prefer the bolt action, and use one when deer hunting most of the time. However, when hunting in overgrown timbered areas where a typical shot may be 20 to 60 yds, a fast handling, accurate (2 MOA is fine at this range), short length rifle with a low powered scope (2x) is a nice hunting tool to have with you. Which brings us to the question of why use a ballistic tip style bullet in the first place?. Good question. I don't have a strong answer, but through the years we have advanced hunting ammo towards being flatter shooting and more accurate. The leverevolution ammo is in line with this aim. I gave the ammo a try this past season, and though i didn't need it, the ammo did inspire more confidence if a longer distance shot, out to 200 yds, was necessary for harvest.

As for not choosing something like a BLR in 308 with spitzer bullets to achieve better ballistics in a lever action, there is no good reason i know of not to opt for that combination other than the fact that the marlin is like a good dog you don't want to leave behind when go for a walk.

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just tried the 160-grain 30/30 rounds in a friend's marlin 336. they held a nice group, and the ballistic chart on the box has them zeroed at 200 yards. using that guide, we shot 3" low on the bulls-eye at 100 yards and did pretty well. in comparison to the core-lokts we were also shooting, the lever evolutions held a little better group and certainly would've had a much flatter trajectory had we been able to use the 200 yard lanes.

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I think that the ammunition companies keep coming up with new stuff to keep people buying, not because of any real advantageor even need. But I'd aslo say this, if the new Hornady stuff inspires more confidence, by all means use it. For even if it is no better, it's also probally no worse.

Over time we all get into rut's with cartridges and bullet's. I use Hornady bullets for hunting and nothing else any more. I don't believe they are really better than some other's but I do have a ton of confidence in them. I think it's safe to say that the latest and greasest bullet's made, even the premiums are no better than the guy using them and the Remington core lock has got to be the most successful bullet ever made. I can't remember when it wasn't made so where's the improvement other than when used in very fast magnums at relatively close range?

I am using Hornady 75gr V-Max bullet's in my 243 and the hardest thing to get used to is the plastic tip. Most everything else I shoot has a lead tip. I find little difference in the tips. I think the best tip's are the mag tips for hunting.

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i think the biggest selling point of the new hornady ammo was the flatter trajectory they offered, if you trust hornady's ballistics.

Don, what are the mag tips you mentioned for hunting?

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mag tip is a bullet Speer brought out many years ago that had little exposed lead. In thier advertizing for it, they showed a photo of a bullet leaving the barrel and the tip appeared to be melted off the bullet. So they just made the bullet that way, with the tip pretty much gone. I have here a few 25 cal Remington PSP bullets in 120gr. The tips are the same as the old mag tip. In fact they brought it out the same time as the Grand Slam and used the mag tip on them, maybe still do. Yes, I just looked in their site and the "G.S." does still have the mag tip and they added a cantalure since bringing it out, that wasn't on the origionals.

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One issue I haven't heard answered is how leverevolution ammo performs in subzero temperatures. From what I've seen the tip, although flexible, isn't exactly made out of nerf material. The temperatures where I live have a way of turning almost any plastic rock hard. Extension cords are about as flexible as barbed wire, and barbecue grill covers shatter like potato chips. I have to wonder if the tip will remain flexible enough at cold temperatures to protect the primer in front of it.

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"Extension cords are about as flexible as barbed wire, and barbecue grill covers shatter like potato chips. "

Been there.......it's like that right now outside. That gave me a good laugh as so much of the rest of the world has no idea what you are talking about, because they haven't lived in those kind of temperatures......tires that never round out on your truck, thermometers that are no good cause they only go to -40. Yes

You make a very good point though about the flexible plastic tip. Will it be hard and brittle?

Personally, and I have had lever guns in the past, I think it is very much a marketing gimmick. It may be that the plastic tipped bullets do shoot a little flatter, but for all practical purposes at the distances you should be restricting yourself to with the leverguns and the cartridges these bullets are for.......well I don't think they are giving you any real world advantage.

They do fit the current trend for pretty plastic tips on bullets though.

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you guys up north have a very valid concern...given most polymers have a glass transition temperature of something like -20 to -96 deg C you should be asking such questions, and hornady should be offering answers.

as far as not offering any real world advantages in the hornady line, you may be right. I shot a deer with them this past year and they worked just as well as the stuff that’s normally half the price of the hornadys...meat at the butcher shop. The only thing i noticed, besides quality bullet construction by hornady, is that they shoot flatter than a normal load. i shot both hornady's ammo and traditional 200 grs. at 200 yds. and the hornady ammo is definitely flatter shooting.....no doubt about it. For bigger game like bears or moose at closer range with a lever gun it would not be my round of choice. But for deer where you go thru the thickets and then enter long gas or power lines, and the occasional open field, i think it may be a good load to consider.

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