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Hole in the wall creek

I've been doing quite a bit of research and will be hunting second rifle in Colorado's unit 4 this year.  As of now I'm thinking of hitting the hole in the wall creek basin for opening day.  I was just curious if anyone else is familiar with the area and what to expect?  I'm just concerned this area may have been hunted heavily the first season and the elk may have moved out.  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

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theres elk there

Most guys will be up higher as it is easy to get to from the roads.  Don't be afraid to drop some elevation

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If you are gonna hunt that

If you are gonna hunt that part of 4 you just better be prepared for a pumpkin patch. I've hunted that section of unit 4 for the past 5 or 6 years and it has recieved more and more pressure every year. There will be people everywhere. Plan to get away from them. And there seems to be more and more ATVers (both that obey the laws and that don't) every year.

Hole-in-the-wall does get a lot of action during the first season and I don't see a whole lot of elk in there usually during 2nd or 3rd.

Have you ever hunted this unit?

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Shot my cow in that area last

Shot my cow in that area last year, during 1st seaon though.  Had a buddy go up there 2nd season and he did not see alot of hunters and he did come across a few nice herd up in ther timber.  I will be there this year 2nd seson also and I will be in the general area.  I can tell you from Hole in the Wall Creek to the nearest road with a load on your back can be brutal.  Whos knows maybe we will be camped near each other.

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I have hunted unit 4 in the past but never Routt national.  I was looking at my maps and it looks like there's a rd (rd 27) that heads up behind bears ears peak.  On another map it looks like there's a walking trail that shoots off of the road accross the tops of hole in the wall and the north fork of elk head creek.  I was thinking of taking this trail out and dropping down over.  Do most guy hunt above this trail or do they drop down in?  I'm not too worried about the pumpkin patch (I hunt PA) so what you guys call a pumpkin patch is probably nothin for me.  If you think I would be better off huning north of bears ears peak I'd be cool with that.  Walkings not an issue, just looking for a decent area to start seeing as how I'll only have one day to scout.  From the internet scoutingI've been doing these drainages seemed like the best option to see some elk.  Goose, I'll shoot you an e-mail through the site before we head out.  Maybe we can hook up and see how the huntings going or hit a local tavern for some refreshments.  If you see a new maroon f-150 with goose stickers all over the back that'll be us...we'll be up there every day although we aren't staying on the mountain. Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.  We only get out there once every few years so I try to be as prepared as I can when I get there and you all have been great!

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There is a road that heads

There is a road that heads down that way to Hole in the Wall.  Might be a real good spot to start.  Like I said I will be in the general area.  We will be staying on the mountain...and have plenty of bevrages.  I will be there a few day before the serason starts.  I drive a Gold F150 4door, has elk and turkey tracks on the tailgate.  Will also be pulling a 10' cargo trailer..say ColoradoWaterfowl.com on the side.

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sounds good

Sounds good goose.  I'll keep my eye out.  I'm sure with all the driving we'll be doing in the area I'll see your truck and if I see it at a camp I'll stop in and introduce myself.  How many guys do you have going?

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Just Dad and I.  I have

Just Dad and I.  I have another buddy that has tags but not sure when he is going up.  My truck may be there and not me I like to just walk away from camp somedays!

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Don't get me wrong,

Don't get me wrong, hole-in-the-wall can have elk but I've hunted it pretty hard and haven't seen the same amount of elk as I have a little bit lower. Another thing to keep in mind in that part of the Routt is that the elk are getting pushed around heavily so it is a lot more of a "right place... right time" deal. That said, find good escape cover and corridors anywhere in there and you will up your chances.

Good luck!

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So, that road you are seeing

So, that road you are seeing on your maps is actually FS (forest service road) 116. ...and that is one long drive!

I would not lay ALL your plans on getting all the way across and around Bear's Ear on that north side using that road to the trail each day. Think of some alternatives to, such as coming in from the south side. (i.e...FS 56E north out of Elkhead will get you to the bottom of the drainage) Yes, much longer haul in and out, but back to the truck will be downhill. Just thinking that if there is a good snow, driving all the way around on that road will be a LONG drive! (Heck, it is a long arse drive even in dry roads and nice weather!) I am stressing this because you say you are not staying up there.

So are you staying in town, or camping someplace else? If you are staying in town, like Craig or Hayden, getting to that point on FS Rd 116 to take that trail (which is Bear's Ear Trail 1144 by the way) will be near a 1.5 -2 hour drive for you! Yes, it may look like only 25-30 miles, but believe me it will take all morning to get there. (and back out as well!) That means you will be looking at a very long and time wasting drive! Even if you are camped someplace else close by, you'll still need to plan for a good hour or more of driving each way. So driving in & out each day sure costs you at minimum 3-4 hours of needed rest/sleep each day. And in the short daylight hours of late fall, that means that you'll need to make those lost hours in the wee hours of the morning before light, or after dark in the evenings.

As far as "most hunters"...they will be everywhere, north of Bear's Ears, south, west & east as well! Your idea to get out and hike in is a good one though, that there alone will cut down the numbers drastically! The further you go the better! Those are some great areas though, but as Goosehunter stated, those couple little miles it looks like on the maps & internet are much more than they appear! That is some thick forest and rough walking, and takes a ton of time to get through so please plan accordingly.

Best of luck to you!

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HeavyC wrote:

So are you staying in town, or camping someplace else? If you are staying in town, like Craig or Hayden, getting to that point on FS Rd 116 to take that trail (which is Bear's Ear Trail 1144 by the way) will be near a 1.5 -2 hour drive for you!

Hey fellas. Its my first post here, been reading alot. I will be hunting with bearklr. We will be staying in Baggs Wyoming. I have never been Elk hunting or "out west" at all. I am so looking fwd to this, and probably will take more pictures then anything.

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