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Hot Does:-)

I guess I got all the hot does on my property. I meant does in heat. Also my property is about 80% woods with open area farms around me. Its a nice place i can't complain. But trying to figure out how to bring in some income and do something I love doing. There no money in cattle anymore.

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Re: Hot Does:-)

The animals for sure have instinct but animals do get used to humans especially if that's what they've known since birth. you could make some decent money if you can grow some big bucks. my uncle used to raise elk and he made pretty good money off of hunts

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going to take me 3 to 4 year to get there

going to take me 3 to 4 year to get there. To have some nice racks. Would like shooter to help me med the animals until then. Darting them. Thanks for the reply

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High fence???

Lot's of input already but here is my 2 cents.

If you're in a high fence operation and you "spook" that deer you still know it's there somewhere and it's only a matter of time before you find it. You can spook it 2, 3, 4 or more times and still chase it till you get it. Esentially you chase it around in circles it's pen till you kill it.

On your farm if you spook it it may leave your farm never to be seen again. Especially if you spook it more than once and it realizes it's being pursued. The hunt is fair chase because if it senses enough danger it can run to the next county if it chooses. That legitimizes the hunt and the skill of the hunter.

I will throw this in however....I'm not a big fan of baiting deer. If they are out eating your crops that you planted for other intentions....fine. But I've never liked feeders or food plots specifically to attract deer. I won't go as far as to say they are wrong and I know it's very common.....but I wouldn't hunt a food plot or feeder deer. Same goes for medicating them. In Utah you'd be arrested, or at least cited and told to stop for medicating them.

Just my s cents

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High fence???
rather_be_huntin wrote:
Lot's of input already but here is my 2 cents.

If you're in a high fence operation and you "spook" that deer you still know it's there somewhere and it's only a matter of time before you find it. You can spook it 2, 3, 4 or more times and still chase it till you get it. Esentially you chase it around in circles it's pen till you kill it.

On your farm if you spook it it may leave your farm never to be seen again. Especially if you spook it more than once and it realizes it's being pursued. The hunt is fair chase because if it senses enough danger it can run to the next county if it chooses. That legitimizes the hunt and the skill of the hunter.

I will throw this in however....I'm not a big fan of baiting deer. If they are out eating your crops that you planted for other intentions....fine. But I've never liked feeders or food plots specifically to attract deer. I won't go as far as to say they are wrong and I know it's very common.....but I wouldn't hunt a food plot or feeder deer. Same goes for medicating them. In Utah you'd be arrested, or at least cited and told to stop for medicating them.

Just my s cents

I agree 100% with your statement...

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High fence???

well said, rather_be_huntin
Yes

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medicating

To keep my Deer in KY under high fence. I have to have them tested for TB every 12 to 18 months. So I have to catch them and draw blood I think. My Vet is still thinking it over on what to do. he is new at this also. I would like shooters to help me out with this and the expense of making this happen. Where the animals are going to be is in the middle of my farm. I don't want them to have any human access but when we have to vet for now. The 3 year plan if I don't go broke before then. There will be no chasing in the fence if you do not get a clean shot from where you are placed or if you miss that the sport of hunting. Like you said if there was NO fence that deer you just missed will be in the next county before you get out of the stand.

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Re: medicating
Bad1brad wrote:
To keep my Deer in KY under high fence. I have to have them tested for TB every 12 to 18 months. So I have to catch them and draw blood I think. My Vet is still thinking it over on what to do. he is new at this also. I would like shooters to help me out with this and the expense of making this happen. Where the animals are going to be is in the middle of my farm. I don't want them to have any human access but when we have to vet for now. The 3 year plan if I don't go broke before then. There will be no chasing in the fence if you do not get a clean shot from where you are placed or if you miss that the sport of hunting. Like you said if there was NO fence that deer you just missed will be in the next county before you get out of the stand.

So I was confused at what you were really trying to ask with this thread until this post. It sounds like you are trying to rationalize having a high fence operation by comparing it to deer living on your farm. I'm not going to judge anyone and there seems to be an appetite for high fence operations but I think most hunters feel that is much more like going to supermarket and buying a steak rather than "hunting". I will say though I believe it's a big leap going from hunting free ranging deer that live on your farm to shooting high fenced deer.

You asked a earlier in the thread how most of us hunt and I don't think it was really answered. The way I hunt and most everyone that runs in my circles hunt spot and stalk. Out west treestands are not near as popular as they are back east or in the midwest although some do it. We do in fact "chase" deer if you want to call it that. Sometimes sitting on a vantage point with a rifle can be productive. I can't image though seeing a deer just out of range and having to stay put, that would drive me batty.

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I do a lot of bow hunting

This is more of the hunting I am talking about. Like with a bow. Once the deer is spooked your not going to get close again. If you sneak up on him and he didn't know you where there is different you would get a shoot.

Yes that's the way we hunt here in AZ also. set and glass or drive and watch for movement. Then try to get with in 300 to 500 yards for a shoot. To wide open. This kind of hunting drives me nuts.

I'm spoiled I guess being from KY and having deer all over. Know where they are and set and wait for them to poke there heads out. I want some big deer that's why I started the Farm. 3 years and counting. 200+BC I hope:-)

Thanks for the reply

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High fence???
rather_be_huntin wrote:
Lot's of input already but here is my 2 cents.

If you're in a high fence operation and you "spook" that deer you still know it's there somewhere and it's only a matter of time before you find it. You can spook it 2, 3, 4 or more times and still chase it till you get it. Esentially you chase it around in circles it's pen till you kill it.

On your farm if you spook it it may leave your farm never to be seen again. Especially if you spook it more than once and it realizes it's being pursued. The hunt is fair chase because if it senses enough danger it can run to the next county if it chooses. That legitimizes the hunt and the skill of the hunter.

I will throw this in however....I'm not a big fan of baiting deer. If they are out eating your crops that you planted for other intentions....fine. But I've never liked feeders or food plots specifically to attract deer. I won't go as far as to say they are wrong and I know it's very common.....but I wouldn't hunt a food plot or feeder deer. Same goes for medicating them. In Utah you'd be arrested, or at least cited and told to stop for medicating them.

Just my s cents

I agree with everything mentioned but I am sure that our hunting ethics are very similar. That being said, today more than ever we need all the hunters we can to help preserve our heritage. I am not going to judge someone who hunts at a game preserve because they they are engaged in a different type of hunting than me. The bottom line is that they are out there contributing to the preservation of hunting.

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