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High Fence Elk Hunt - How do you feel?

I hunted a 20,000 acre high fence operation last year; here's why. I hunt public land, hard, every year. The last couple of years, no luck. And I wanted some elk meat. So this place offered a cow elk (management) hunt for a very reasonable price. The territory was very pretty, so I figured what the heck? Get out and about in some pretty country and bring home some meat, for a reasonable price.

In fact, my guide and I hunted hard for two days, with no luck. On the final (3rd) day, I finally connected. This was NOT a tie the animal up and let the client shoot it kind of hunt. But it also wasn't 100% fair chase. Kind of in between, although closer to a true fair chase. I was happy with this, since it did what I was looking for and I had no illusions that this is what real hunting is always like.

On the other hand, I know that they buy bulls that are pen raised, then set free before the season starts each year. The bull hunters got to look over a lot of bulls before pulling the trigger. I don't consider that sporting at all, and wouldn't be interested in that. The guys who were bragging about the 340 bulls they shot there - that's just wrong in my opinion.

But then there was one guy who's been successfully hunting whitetail for years, a very experienced hunter. He'd been going west for years, trying to get a bull elk. Every time, something went wrong and he never connected. He was getting old, not many years of hunting left, and JUST WANTED TO GET A BULL before he quit hunting. I think most of us can sympathize with the guy.

So, it all kind of depends....

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High Fence Elk Hunt - How do you feel?

I went on a Buffalo hunt once, always wanted to do it. It was like shooting cattle in a pasture. I'm not here to say one shouldn't hunt high fenced privately owned game. I just wish the majestic elk would have never found their place in the high fenced hunting world. It's kinda like taking a wild mustang and putting it in a pen. That's a heart breaker. Some situations like disabilities makes me think yeah why not. It's legal in the states these hunts take place so who am I to say it's wrong or right. Large amounts of land as said before 20,000 acres or more is pretty good sized hiding areas for critters like elk. But sooner or later he'll just be in the wrong spot on the wrong day. To me it's not much difference than food plotting deer. Just more controlled.

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High Fence Elk Hunt - How do you feel?

I looked into some elk hunts,and was ready to book a hunt , but figured out these Utah hunts were not exactly fair chase. They don't really tell you that. Instead I did a public land hunt in NM, was lucky ,and killed a 350''6x7. No fences for me.. Won't say never I'm not gettin any younger,hope I don't

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Kentucky Hunter basket racks 120 class all over

I have hunted 35 years in Kentucky 130 class whitetails all over. Nice 8 pointers. I just started a Deer farm. I want to see 200+ deer. What I know is you have to have time 4 to 5 years to make a trophy buck. The way the hunting is anymore there isn't to many placed a deer can hide for that long. Once he is spotted he is shot.

Next year I am going to need shooter for my farm. I will need to dart my deer because of the regs. to keep them on the farm. I have to Med them and test them for TB. I'm setting up Tree stands and a box blind. This is going to be in 22 acres of thick woods Riven and a creek running threw the middle. There is no chasing them around set and wait shoots. Even if you where chasing them around the farthest clear shoot would be 25 yards. These would be velvet shoots also.

I have to pay for the meds and darts and Time to do this. What do you guys think this is worth$$$ to knock down a Beautiful animal. A great way to teach younger hunter and/or handicapped friend or family that can't get out in the wood with you.

What the stories they would have if you took them hunting/Shooting!!! Thats what hunting is all about anyway being in the field with friend and the story you tell afterward.

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High Fence Elk Hunt - How do you feel?

Just my drift on it but I don't know of anybody handicapped or not that would pay for your experience to "dart" a deer on 22 acres. My cousins husband has been in a wheelchair for the last 30 years and in that time he has taken a 375 pt bull elk and a buffalo not to mention the number of deer, ducks, geese and other animals all fair chaise from his wheelchair. Yes, he needed help but none of the animals were in a fenced in yard. I also know of several veterans that are missing an arm or a leg that hunt and a couple that do it by themselves with no help from anybody except for getting the animal out.

Now for what you propose for so called hunters to pay you to do when you should be paying for just doesn't sound right. 22 acres just isn't what I would consider a seizable enough area to even consider it even if I could take the animal home with me.

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Thanks Just asking?

If you have never hunted My property. You might change your mine. Real thick an the deer can standing 15 feet from you and you would not know he it there. Just asking shooter if they would be interested. My 3 boys are more then willing to do it. They love watching the deer come into range and intesapating when to take the Clean shot. With out the deer knowing there there. Max shot will be about 30 yards. They are already working with the Air guns and darts on 3D dear to make sure they don't hurt the animals and are sighted in from 8 yards to 50.

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Its a little weak

It should have its own place in the books. Like an asterisk .

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Thats my thougfht also.
SoCoKHntr wrote:
And, I agree with you about food plots. Also, in your dads case I kinda sorta understand, but one could have plopped down a fraction of that money to put in for a Colo. tag drive there and really hunt an Elk in years past.

This is ego talking on my part, but when I see those hunting shows where guys are hunting high fence and easily walking to and killing huge bulls and bucks it, I think to myself other viewers must think this is really easy stuff here.

I think to myself they don't know about the years eating tag soup after humping ridge after ridge getting up at o dark thirty busting my *** up a mountain day after day for a week to catch one glance at an elk or not even seeing one for the week. And, then the feeling after you've learned and finally put a little experience and work together to get one on your own that you bled and sweated for.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but to me that is the true nature of hunting.

But it hard to find big bucks any more. If one is spotted there are 20 hunters that know about him and he is gone opening day. Or you pay mega bucks to someone private property not fenced and get 2 year old 120 class deer. I have them all over my property in Kentucky. With every hunter and there brother on my boarder ready to shot them opening day.

and what I see any more is all the big bucks are killed leaveing all the scrub buck to breed the does???? No more Mass is breed out???

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High Fence Elk Hunt - How do you feel?

wow!quite the mixed bag of folks here!it makes for some interesting reading.unfortunately high fenced hunts or estate hunts(fancy name to market it in a politically correct theme)will always be associated with hunters and hunting because of the word "hunt" that follows high fenced or estate.It sells the whole idea and can remain because of the real hunters that are hunting out there being ethical and contributing to sustain hunting. if they called it high fence killing or estate killing they would be slammed shut by peta and the likes in most places.if they called it high fence harvesting or estate harvesting then no one would buy into it because there is no status for a harvester like there is a hunter in most non diy and high fence/estate types of folks.personally i wouldnt hunt a fenced place for big game. i am with the rest of the diy and love to get out and beet some feet!no better personal reward and gratification to hunt wapiti or deer on a hard diy in the high country.You couldnt even pay me to dart a deer in kentucky

T-minus 10 days and counting until muzzy camp arrival

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No Tag this year:-( AZ

No tag this year in AZ. Will be spotting this year for some friends better than nothing. Might get me a cat or coyote.

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