whats the difference,you said it in your first line,THE FENCE,THE FENCE,THE FENCE. this is the point people are trying to make,the fence.they cant come and go as they please with a fence.

10 days and counting until muzzy camp arrival!

Thats all??? the deer do the same thing every day. I hardly ever see any trails leaving my farm. but a couple entering. I have 32 wild deer on my farm that i know of and most of the time they are in the same spots every day.

Face it, a high fence is a barrier to where the animal can run to. Weather there is a trail going off of your property or not if you have a fence that the animal can not jump or go under that is restricting its movement and that is not natural.

That was better. I would like to set a shoot that is like hunting. How do you guys hunt? Here in KY this is how we hunt. Scout watch movement place stand and enter before they do. I live in AZ now they hunt different here they drive around all day until they spot deer then try to cut them off somewhere. but here you might have a tree every 100 yards. Where as KY you have to push your self threw trees and bushes on every step.

Thanks Guys just looking for input

Brother, it sounds like you are really trying hard to rationalize this to yourself or to hunters for their acceptance. My take is this, if you want to start this as a businessman, I am sure there are those who would partake in it and pay you for it. Those that would pay for your service would agree with the points you are making.

I don't think you shouldn't do what you want so don't think my message is one of not starting your business. My only input comes as a hunter and as a hunter, I would never participate in a high fence or any other type of 'hunting' that isn't as natural as you find in the wild.

I am lucky out here in the West we still have abundant public land thousands of acres I can hunt at my fancy (provided within state rules and regs). I myself would just don't find the appeal of shooting game or killing game/stock that is raised by man. If I did I'd get a job at a stockyard.

A mature but relatively small 23 inch muley buck taken fair chase would be more of a trophy to my times ten then a fence raised 34 inch muley buck. It's a personal thing reflecting my values as a hunter.

Take care!

I agree on that SoKo

I hunt wild deer every year also. On my 250 acre farm. I have had them come up and smell me during Turkey season when camouflaged out and waiting for that big tom. That's why I am asking the questions here. In my hunting experiences in the last 35 years I don't see much of a difference.

and thanks for the response that what i am looking for Pros and Cons.

I have to agree with SoCo on the high fence issue. The way the deer react to humans has everything to do with hunting pressure, i'm guessing that the deer on your farm dont get pressured very often by the way they tend to hang around your land all the time.

And the reason you have the high fence is to keep the deer restricted (as we've said in previous posts) for a number of reasons: The more you hunt the area...the more skittish the deer will be and they'll be less likely to hang around with hunting pressure and number two...the deer and elk that are high fenced are not wild animals to begin with, they're ranch stock bought from other ranchers, not just caught by putting a fence up.

The difference between the 200 acre High Fence and the 200 acre Farm is that the animals in the high fence are born and raised on ranches not in the wild. cuz i'm pretty sure trapping wild animals with fences is against the law

You can not fence in wild deer and keep them. But a raised white tail deer has the same fright and flight instincts that the wild deer have. If you move they move if you snap a stick there gone with tail flashing. That was my thinking also until I went to visit a farm to purchase some deer. These deer where in a breeding pen one buck and one doe where bottle feed they would come right up to you. the other 12 that where in the pen. knew we were there. there was one doe that keep a watch on every thing. the other 11 unless i knew they where there they where hid in the grass or behind bushes or trees. I had my son with me and he was trying to be silent. We started feeding the first 2 deer. one of the other deer started to come to the feed. nice 16 pointer. my son moved to see him better He jumped and took off and we didn't see them. again that day. He took off like a flash.

So that's my take on deer in a fence in area. They are wild and know how to hide.

instincts???

the difference I see is that a fenced in deer is still a fenced in deer. It has no means to escape the 250 acre farm. If your deer are only staying on your 250 acre farm you have something very unique. My ranch is 17,000 acres I have both mule deer and whitetail deer on it. You may see a buck in one spot one day and the next day you will see the same buck 2 miles from where you seen him the day before esp. when they are rutting and trying to find hot does. In this part of the country you would have a time keeping a deer on 250 acres for a few hours.