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when you encounter a large herd of elk and there are plenty of big bulls is there a herd bull? If so how do you know?

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Once the rut is in full swing the herd bull will run the other lesser bulls off. So, until the rut is really in full swing you may see a few four or five point bulls running in the herd. Rag horns and spikes may stay in the herd even during the rut.

When they are together or if bulls or still hanging in the herd the herd bull will be the largest and the dominant one pushing the lesser bulls and cows around when he sees fit.

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Well about two weeks ago I found a herd around 200 to 250 and I watched them for a long time and couldn't pick out any particular bull that was more dominant than another. and there was a lot of them to choose from that were equally as big as each other. what do you think now?

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That they weren't fully rutting yet. In our area we've been discussing unit 861, 85, We've noticed the elk don't really get hot hot until about now mid Oct. A friend of mine who has a ranch in unit 84 by Gardner has noticed they don't get crazy until this time pretty consistently. Even though I bugled my bull in this year we didn't hear any other bugles or notice rut activity during muzzleloader season.

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Very intresting, there has been only one time ive herd elk bugling during 2nd season not to say that i dont think they do cause i believe they do i just havent heard much of it. ive herd of people say they've herd em bugling all the way into november. Im just wondering now why do they start late

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I've often heard they start or peak at different times depending on the area and that colder weather often is the catalyst. In the past four years of Muzzleloader hunting I've never heard em bugling like crazy.

The one time I did hear of this my dad had hunted Saugauche (sp?) back around 2000 and said opening morning he hit a bugle and had three different bulls immediately respond and he brought different bulls in that day without gettting a shot. Constant bugling he said.

I think in the units we mentioned having an early season rifle bull only tag would get you into hot action and is what I'm applying for next year.

Back to the herd bull if their hot the big daddy will be running other bulls off.

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Good info Socokhtnr i appreciate the conversation!

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RUFFNECK wrote:
Good info Socokhtnr i appreciate the conversation!

Cool, so do I. Good luck and I'll be reporting back Sun. or Monday on the Huerfano.

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sounds good.

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The herd bull is not always the biggest. The biggest may start off as the herd bull, but after several days of breeding and fighting a lesser bull will be able to defeat him and run him off. Very often the satelite bulls will be well worth the taking, and may actually be bigger than the herd bull later in the rut.

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