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Location: Alabama
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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

Ok here's the short story.
First my setup is a Remington 700ML with Leupold bases and rings and BSA Classic 3-12x50 scope. I'm shooting #209 caps and 125grs of Triple 7 powder (actual powder not pellets) pushing a 245gr powerbelt aero-tip bullet. Ok now the gun was boresighted when the scope was put on.

Here's what happened when we tried to sight it in at the range:

1st shot- at 50 yds 8in low and 7in left- made adjustments
2nd shot-at 50 yds 3in low and 1in left- made adjustments
3rd shot- at 50 yds dead level but 3in to the left- made adjustments
4th shot- at 50 yds dead level but 6in left (think turned wrong way after last shot) made adjustments
5th shot- at 50 yds touching upper right of 1/2inch bullseye no adjustments
6th shot- at 100 yds not on paper no adjustments
7th shot- at 100 yds not on paper no adjustments
8th shot- back at 50 yds 2in low and 1in left no adjustments
9th shot- at 50yds 2in low and 1 1/2in right made adjustments
10th shot-at 100yds 6in low and 3in right made adjustments
11th shot- at 100 yds not on paper

After that I was about ready to throw it in the river. I have heard that these were'nt good ML's but it's what I have for now. I was also told by a buddy to try hornady sabots. He said his ML flung powerbelts all over the place. So any advice on getting this thing to sight with this or any projectile/powder combo or whether I should just go get another ML would be helpful. Thanks

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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

Try dropping your powder charge, 125 is alot for powder.
I had the same problem with the wifes CVA and Powerbelts. I reduced powder to 85 grains of powder and threw away the pellets and atleast stayed on paper however it took me changing to conicals, ie: 295 grain Buffalo Bullets and 85 grains of powder to get any kind of consistency.
I use 340 grain Buffalos in my 700ML with 90 grains of Pyrodex and get 3" groups @ 100 yards.

Tighten and re-tighten all the screws on your scope mounts and rings also as they can come loose after initial mounting. Add to that the "magnum" load you are shooting and its possible that you may have jarred the scope or the mounts loose.

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Location: Alabama
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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

All right i'll try that. I did have trouble with it before when trying to sight using the iron sights. Same thing close at 50 but nowhere around at 100.

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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

I don't like sighting based on a single shot. ML are inherrently less accurate and consistent than a rifle, so rather than chase the paper I'd try 3 shot groups.

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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

Are you swabbing the barrel between shots or every few shots?

I spit swab and dry swap between shots at the range.

Hope this helps. I know it can be very frustrating.

Good Luck

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Location: NW Ohio
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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

Are you swabbing the barrel between shots or every few shots?

I spit swab and dry swap between shots at the range.

Hope this helps. I know it can be very frustrating.

Good Luck

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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

First, fire a 3-shot group before making adjustments. Second, swab between every shot. This should help to make your 3-shot groups more consistent and your adjustments more useful.

I would also agree with backing off from 125 grain loads. In fact, I'd probably start at about 80-90 grains and work up from there, no more than 5 grains at a time.

Good luck!

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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

try to back it down to 100 grns or less. and shot a real sabot. I shot t/c shock waves at 250 gr with 100 gr of pyrodex pelets I was shooting 150 grns and was all over the place. I have herd shockwave would patern a lil better cause they are a lil more areo-dynamic hornady sst is a good load I hear. I clean between each shot I use a wet patch with #13 bore cleaner and a a dry patch. when I am on the stand and shot I just reload but with out the damp patch the 3rd shot is a real pain to load.

good luck I think lowering the powder might help a bunch.

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Location: Levack, Ontario, Canada
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HELP! Sighting in Muzzleloader!!

With that many shots your barrel must have been pretty fouled. When I target shoot I run a spit patch down my barrel to knock back the fouling after every shot. After 5 to 8 shots (or when my accuracy heads south) I will field clean the barrel to get rid of the fouling. This should help you alot, if you want accurate target shooting. Best of luck.

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