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HIghflyer wrote,

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Just one guy's opinion, but I'd avoid anything that says magnum especially if you are new.

This is true not only for beginners but for 99.9% of most hunting and most shooters. The 06 and .270 or both good choices if you must go with long action calibers but the .308 will do most of what the bigger cartriges will, with less recoil and on a short action to boot. It's also a good cartrige to reload for having tons of bullet choices. It's also commercially available everywhere. As far as optics go just don't give in to the tempatation to cheap out. Buy quality optics and you will be happy.

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Tosoc,
Leupold is a Beaverton, OR based company. They make excellent quality optics. From my Springfield .22 to my Dakota .300 win mag every scoped rifle I own has a Leupold on it. I've never been disappointed.
In this economy, I would look close to home first if I were spending money today. Just my opinion since you asked.

Rogie

http://www.leupold.com

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I'll second that for Leupold. I've got two of their rifle scopes and a spotting scope and I'm happier than a pig in mud with all of them. And I know I'm in the minority on the variable scope issue as well, but a variable power scope is not a neccessity. I'd rather have a high quality fixed power than a lower quality variable, but opinions vary. All I can say is be wary of buying too much scope. In terms of variable power scopes a 2.5 to 8 is plenty for anyone (or a 3 x9) and anything higher than that and you are paying for magnification you won't use. Personally, I like the straight 6 power for all of my western hunting (as well as several of my friends) and I know a couple guys that have hunted for years with a straight 4 power.

And yes, buying American is a noble gesture. Even though I pumped thousands of dollars into American made toys this last year I still feel guilty about buying a rifle from Finland. Love the rifle - hate the guilt.

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Anything higher then 9x and your paying for magnification you wont use????

My 2-5 - 16 x50mm just loves picking up Yotes at 400 yards+

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Sorry but I do believe the thread was about deer and elk rifles. I don't know too many people that can use beyond 9x for big game. For varmints and such absolutely turn the power up, but for deer / elk I've never seen the use of a high power scope and this is from a guy raised in the open country of Montana.

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I too will attest to Leupolds, at least to their longevity. None of mine are newer than 1984. They are still working great.

Another Scope I have been impressed with is the Burris, The couple I have looked down and shot have very fine optics. Great light gathering properties.
Can't attest to how rugged they are, but the guys who have them swear they hold up with the best.

Have yet to test a new Bushnel, but understand their top line glass is more than adaquate.

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Just a footnote since American Made / Owned came up on the thread. Burris is no longer American owned. They are owned by Berretta now. I'm not knocking this fact since I bought a Sako that is now owned by the same company. But, if you are looking for a purebred American product Leupold is it.

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Looking thru a Burris is looking thru an old Redfield. Maybe I should say upgraded Redfield. Both the Burris bros. were engineers for Redfield in Denver and quit to make their own scope's. Things that may have been in the offering at Redfield became Burris!

As for longivity, my two oldest scopes still in use are two Redfields from very early 70's. I'd bet some of the old Leupolds are still in use too. My 25-06 has a Bushnell Banner from the 80's.

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Good call Don.
My 2 primary hunting rifles have Leupolds from the late 70's, early 80's. And still ticking as good as new.

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Still room for someone else's 2 cents worth?

I'm a BIG 308 fan, and usually go with it over my 300 Win Mag and 325 WSM for elk hunting. Why? Well, those are both fabulous elk rounds, but I like the lower recoil, accurate 308. With High Energy Federal 180s, or my hand loaded 168 gr. Barnes TSXs, I can match 30'06 performance. Bottom line: anything out to 300 yards and I'm golden. Anything over 300 yards, I probably shouldn't be taking the shot anyway.

I've got a couple of Browning Micro-Medallions (257 Roberts and 7mm-08) and those are awesome guns. Bought them originally for my son and daughter, but screw that "kids and ladies" label! Both shoot 2" groups at 200 yards, and are a pleasure to tote around up in the mountains. I don't care what anybody says - every Browning I've ever owned shoots extremely accurately and reliably, right out of the box. And they're pretty.

Even though it isn't on many lists of top scopes, I own 3 Bushnell Elite 3200s in 3-10x40. Put my first one side by side with my Leupold VariX-III, and the Bushnell was clearer and brighter. Sold the Leupold, and have been buying the Elites ever since - at about half the cost.

That's all I'm sayin'.....

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