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Obama personnel questionnaire shows anti-gun bias
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4230

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This is upsetting and frightening, but not surprising. So Obama has too much on his plate to chisel away at our rights? How, after reading this can anyone still deny the obvious. Thanks Cg

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Do you suppose that he'll disarm his Secret Service detail?

Make sure you write legibly, SoCo, so they get the serial numbers right. They're obviously doing this because of their strong support of your 2nd Amendment rights.

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This provision was probably inserted by his secret service detail. What's wrong with seeing if people own a gun and if so if they have kept and used it leagaly. Ever since those hate rallies death threats have skyrocketed, why shouldn't the secret service be concerned.

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civetcat wrote:
This provision was probably inserted by his secret service detail. What's wrong with seeing if people own a gun and if so if they have kept and used it leagaly. Ever since those hate rallies death threats have skyrocketed, why shouldn't the secret service be concerned.

The question should be "what's wrong with asking this question".
Is the Secret Service above the law now.
Do you think that a "yes" answer will disqualify an applicant?
This is how it happens, little bit at a time with people like civetcat seeing nothing wrong with it as long as there is an excuse.

I wonder if civetcat was asked this question before he was allowed to campaign for Obama? If so, what was his answer?
If not, why not?

Mabe Sen Lieberman should be asking this question also as it has been stated that he be thrown under a large bus.

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Oh, no...it can't be from Obama. Must've been the Secret Service...yeah, that's a convenient way of maintaining denial.

There are already significant background checks involved for peope getting access to the inner circle. Bush has probably had more threats against him than any other president in history (except maybe Lincoln), and no such policy existed. Security checks examine all of your past actions, associations (BIG irony there), neighbors, relatives, etc. Nowhere in there is there a theory that owning a gun makes you a threat.

I've spent time interfacing with the presidential Secret Service detail -- this kind of stuff doesn't come from them.

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Maybe my history is a bit rusty but to my knoweldge, no president in history was ever assassinated by a member of his own inner circle who owned a firearm. What other possible explaination could there be? Doesn't take much imagination to come up with some answers and none of them are comforting.
Lincoln.........Lone gunman with cheap pistol.
Garfield........Lone gunman with cheap pistol
Mckinley.......Lone gunman with cheap pistol
Kennedy.......Lone gunman with cheap rifle.
Attempted on Roosevelt, Ford, Jackson, Reagan all by lone gunmen with cheap pistols. Not law abiding citizens with lawfully owned guns.

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This is out there, but I wouldn't completely say this wouldn't happen...

2 years from now a farmer is going to seek help for disaster relief funds for crop damage during a storm. Maybe even help during the winter months. The first paper he'll need to fill out is information regarding firearms.

A construction worker is going to visit unemployment in December of 2010. Before he can make a claim, he'll have to fill out paperwork regarding firearms.

Then a year after that, the government will say you need to liquidate certain monetary assets before recieving help. Of course these assets will include, well you get the picture.

Absolutely crazy, zany, out there, and just shy or conspiracy theories. But you know what? That's the type of junk that will happen if people don't start asking questions now.

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Why would Obama be so worried about people in his inner circle? Hmmm...

Part of the problem I have with it is that it insinuates you're of questionable character if you own a firearm. Almost all the questions are designed to uncover anything that could embarrass the administration. Apparently, this administration thinks you could be an embarrassment if you own a firearm.

Have you read the whole questionnaire? It's a strong detterent from ever wanting to serve in that capacity. No one should have to have their life laid that bare as part of a job interview process.

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I just finished reading the whole questionaire. Yeah. The diary part almost keeled me over. The last question was pretty good too. So if you have a black sheep in the family, guess you're not going to the White House. What is really disturbing on question 59 is the term immediate family. I have always known the federal government to include grandparents, parents, aunts, and uncles in that category. Sounds more like a feeler question than one of security. Maybe they should be asking if the person drives a hybrid car too, or if they prefer paper or plastic.

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