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Gun for Africa

Hi all, just wondering what averybody thinks about the 450 Marlin guide gun for hunting game in Africa? The Wife and I would like to go there soon the only big bore gun I have is the 450.. U can get buffalo bore ammo for it now too. the next biggest gun I have is my .300 Wby Mag.

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Location: MICH
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Depends on what you are going hunting for. If you are only going to do the plains game then 30.06 or 270 0r 300 would be fine if you want to do large game buff or so then yes the 450 or 458 lot. if you would like some ifo. i would be glad to e-mail ya back and forth or even call ya.

Anonymous
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I reckon you been out with Mr. Prospector hunting gold in the mountains and the sun baring down on your brain pan too. Yep, I think your a couple marbels short for the game Dude. You save that lever gun for those black bears or swamp deer.

The best thing I can tell you, is that a .416 Rigby is the gun for you to have in your hands, enough said. eye roll

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Location: Northern California
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What Game Are You Hunting?

I have not hunted in Africa, but have read quite a lot about it and it would appear that:

a) if you are hunting plains game, you'll do well to bring a good solid deer rifle like and 06 or a 270 as Gemsbok suggested.

b) if you're hunting dangerous game use something big bore and powerful like 416, 458 Lott or Win.

c) quite a large number of game is taken with 45-70 caliber lever guns these days.. Reloaded 45-70 ammo can safely go to pressures close to the 458 Winchester. An 1895 Marlin will allow you four fast follow up shots that you would not get with a bolt gun and three more shots than a double will give you. The .450 Marlin is loaded to similar pressures.

While the .416 is obviously a good choice, I think Quicksand should do more research before stating things so definitively and argumentatively.

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People who go out after dangerous game with a lever gun in a 45/70 caliber are a couple of bricks shy of a full load!!! NO NEED TO SAY ANY MORE OK.

I don't have have to research my findings, as I have been there and no for a fact what to use on either plains or dangerous game. You can take that to the bank. eye roll eye roll

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Location: Anchorage AK
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Gun for Africa

The 45-70 can be loaded nearly to .458 WinMag levels and the .450 nearly to the level of the 45-70. There are also people taking their Marlin 1894GSs and taking African game with them. Is this just a stunt or prudent hunting of animals who can and will kill you? Yes, the lever gun is fast to get another shot off. But what about the animal who wheels and runs away after the first hit making for the hills? How confident are you of hitting a receding target at 150 yards or more with your guide gun?

Before anyone says I don't like lever guns, I do. I actually even own them. But I know their limitations. I want more speed, spitzer bullets and flatter trajectories if the buffalo I just shot runs away as much as I want to drop a ton of bricks on him if he charges.

If you plan on taking your .450, I would just plan on getting real close, stick the muzzle in the animals ear and pop him. Just make sure your PH has their .458 Winny to back you up in case the poo hits the fan.

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Michael me Lad! Your starting to sound like a scoundrel who doesn't like the sight of a lever gun me boy. Now just to clue you in on the matter sir, I too own several lever guns, I do. However, I am not yet DAFT as a one wing bat trying to make the circus when it comes to town.

Those that persist in trying to hunt and kill dangerous game with a lever gun are barking for a permanent place in hollowed ground. My humble opinion of course understand. I'll leave the lever guns and killing of Africa's dangerous game to the Wee Little People, for they have more power, than those who carry a lever gun after Dangerous Game Animals in the bush.

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It’s funny how these threads usually end up in a measurement contest.

Kshunter, call or write your guide in Africa and find out what they recommend.
Then get that gun and practice, practice, practice just like you’re going to Carnegie Hall.

Good luck, and don’t get eaten.
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Gun for Africa

Being reasonable and prudent when all is said and done, I'm with Hassan.
Good luck, don't get eaten or stomped.

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Location: Safety Harbor, FL
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Gun for Africa

Having lived there and hunted there for most of my life I can tell you that it all depends on what you hunt,
It also depends on how good a shot you are

I grew up hunting plains game and/or most of the antelope species with my grandfather, and the rifles of choice were either his old British .303, left over from the 1st World War, or a Winchester .243.

I have hunted everything up to Blue Wilde Beast with the .303, but would have felt more comfortable with something like a .375 or something

Took a nice Kudu bull with the .243 when i was about 12, and my grandpa got an eland with it.

So to recap, just depend on how good you shoot, we always went for head or neck shots because we used the meat for eating and/or Biltong (Afrikaans word for Jerky)

Hope this might help

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