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The modern hunter is by definition a conservationist. The last century has seen the rise of North American species that were near the brink of collapse or locally extinct in the late 1800's, the victims of habitat lose or over hunting. The hunters willingness to accept license fees and bag limits, for what had been previously considered a free commodity, setup an economic engine that produced hard cash for species rehabilitation. Some of the notable benefactors have been:

- Turkey
- Canadian Geese
- Southern and Eastern Whitetail
- Rocky Mountain Elk (reintroduction into several Midwestern and eastern states)
- Eastern Black Bear

North American big game are on the rise and the future looks bright, but with more game comes more predators and no predator draws more attention than the wolf.

When talk turns to wolves the otherwise conservationist hunter stumbles a bit and for good reason. Wolves compete with humans directly for the same game we covet, plus, like other big predators, wolves can be a threat to people living in proximity to packs. Furthermore in some circles, like the National Park System, wolves are usually considered a superior deer and elk population control method than people.

However, as fiendish as wolves may be, a true conservationist strives to obtain some balance in nature and there is no more critical balance than that of predator and prey. In other words, it is impossible to call oneself a conservationist without accepting that more prey requires more predators.

Do you, as a hunter, accept growing wolf populations in North American? If so, what are the limits to which you will accept wolves? Are there any (or all) situations where wolves are unacceptable? Or is the wolf debate just a lot of fuss over nothing?

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Well I personaly love wolves and I think that wolves should be everywhere they where before we killed them . But they should be managed like all the other game animals or we will not have them. Just like mountian lions wolves are a big part of nature to be loved and respected for what they are. I just hate to see things like when I was 8, my dad and I drove by some guys house off of a dirt road and he had over 100 coyote pelts nailed to a phone pole thats over doing it.

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Only good wolf is a dead wolf. Period. If I can not see them ok, if I can, they are pelts.

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I drove by some guys house off of a dirt road and he had over 100 coyote pelts nailed to a phone pole thats over doing it
I think the yotes were over doing it.

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I find growing wolf populations acceptable with one condition. Locals living around packs have a majority say in how they are managed.

I think wolves have a place, but exactly what that place is and how extensive is an issue for states and counties to decide. That being said, if they are going to spend money and introduce wolves, they should at least make sustainable pack counts. If they are not going to do that, save everybody the money and hassle and don't reintroduce them at all.

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I've been reading reports of mountain lion sightings in various parts of Missouri, and personally, I'm glad to know they're around, because if a particular habitat is sustaining a top predator like that, then its doing well.

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I am only 15 years old, but before you let my age decide whether or not I have a legitimate and well thought opinion, I believe you should read what I have to say. I live in Idaho, where they are currently relocating wolves in the Bitteroot region. Now I have both traveled and hunted that region as well as my dad. We have both noticed a substantial drop in the elk and deer population. Not far from where I was hunting, a recent study conducted by a group of biologists, showed a 94% calf fatality rate among the elk herd. We all know that a fatality rate like that can completely wipe-out an elk herd. So with that, I believe that the wolves should not be introduced. If they disappeared from that region it's because something wasn't working out, so why waste money to try and do something that will just cause problems in the future? If you agree/disagree with me, please reply or write me back. The reason I am asking for you to reply is because I would like to know if you think I am right/wrong and I would also like to learn more on the subject and the other views/opinions of other hunters. Thank you and happy hunting. :smile:

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Idahocityhunter, sure if the herd is that stressed already, I'd say introducing wolves is not a good idea. However the 94% may be in a small region and a one-time annual number (say from a hard winter, disease, famine).

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(re: Bitmasher)Yeah you could very well be correct, but if that is happening in the area regardless of the size, it will spread and undoubtedly cause problems in the near/distant future.

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Wolves and elk lived in the same areas long before we came along, and things were balanced. I'd say there's a lot more to the story than wolves killing elk, you have to figure the winterkill, disease, poaching, road-kill, all sorts of other stuff that influences the population is playing a much bigger role than the wolves alone.

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Thank you Captain_Obvious, I think you have a well suiting name. If you would have taken one minute to read bitmasher's reply, you would have used at least .5% of your brain and realize you just said exactly what bitmasher said.

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