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Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

I am pro staff for Grim Reaper and have been activley working at finding reasons why expandable broadheads are illegal hear in WA and legal in so many other states. I have talked with officals from the fish and wildlife and all they have told me is that when expandable broadheads came out years ago they were unrelable and with our liberal state laws they outlawed them. They say that they know that the broadhead company's have been making the expandable broadheads more reliable these days but they dont have the money to test all the expandable broadheads on the market to see if they all meet there requirnents. They said that when they made the new season regulations and laws they asked people to comment on things to change and I guess alot of hunter's and "NON HUNTERS" "LIBERALS" said thay dont want them to be legal. I believe and it's been proven with our broadheads and other's that they are reliable and more ethical that traditional fixed blade broadheads. The same goes for luminated nocks. Thay said the majority of people that submitted comments said to keep them illegal. It seems to me that we are getting more and more restricted here in WA and it's because the majority of people that commented on the new regulations are either old timers that dont want to see new technology and or people that dont even hunt on a regular basis but thought they would ruien it for all us hardcore hunters looking for a more ethical ways of taking big game. How many of you took the servay and what did you write on this issue? We need as many people as we can to contact the fish and wildlife and try to legalize these not so new products. If you ever have used expandable broadheads in other states you know what I mean when I say these are more ethical and accurate than fixed blade broadheads. and Luminated nocks are a plus when tacking your arrow and seeing your shot placment.

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Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

OK, I'll reply.

You remember that thread you started regarding rifle hunters? The one where you alluded to "riffles" being the evil that causes a lot of problems?

HMMM, Maybe it's the same brand of ignorance that brings the uninformed to the conclusion that mechanical broadheads do the same.

Now to the meat of the probelm;
Next time the game dept states it can't test all the mechanical broad heads, ask if they tested all the modern rifle bullets on the market today for proper expansion at all distances, in all rifle calibers. First off, let me assure you that there is no such bullet, none work exceptionally well at all ranges. Secondly, bad products are self limiting. The word gets out on poorly performing products, most quit selling and go away in short order. There are some that hang on for some time as a result of a good marketing campain, but they eventually go away too.

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Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

The laws are there for a reason. Washington broadhead laws are fine just the way they are.

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Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

Billy,
What is your reasoning for saying our laws on broadheads are fine the way they are now? What do you shoot? Have you used expandable broadheads? Have you shot back to back with a fixed broad head to see the difference? Did you know in 48 other states expandable broadheads are legal? Do you ever ask yourself why everyone else thinks they are good but our liberal officials think they are unreliable? You didnt give any reason for your comment.

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Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

I shoot Thunderheads and Slick Tricks.

I think mechs have too much possibility of failure.

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Think of it this way, If you shoot a deer with a 22 your going to get a small hole and little blood, but if you shoot it with a shotgun slug your going to get a huge hole with lots of blood. When you hunt any game your obligated to make the most ethical kill possible. I believe that if technology has found a way for us as hunters to make a more ethical kill then we are obligated to use it. If you want to continue to use fixed blade broadheads then by all means go for it, but i would rather use a mechanical that is going to create a large wound channel, fly better and put the animal i am hunting down as fast as possible. You don't see debates about technology when it comes to a new rifle round or a new type of black powder. Traditional bow hunters need to grasp reality and remember our roles as hunters, and that is to make the most ethical kill possible.

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Re: Grim Reaper Pro staffer on WA broadhead regulations

I wish ODFW would look into changeing the regs in oregon too. There are some mechanical braodheads now like the Blood runner from NAP that even if it didnt open the cutting diameter is bigger that whats legal.

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In reality I think it is going to be awhile before any changes are made in either states unless guys like us make a stand. There are to many traditional guys out there pushing to hold technology back. I went to the sportsmans show over the weekend and talked to the guys at the Bowhunters Of Washington stand and they also were traditional archers that didn't want to see mechanicals legalized. After about fifteen minutes of debate i finally got one of them to semi agree with me. It's going to be a tuff fight.

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