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Location: Prattville, Alabama
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My fault!

I apolagize, I read your post wrong.

On another note even though I can afford it I don't think I would ever go guided, to me it takes cerrtain aspects of "the hunt" out of the picture.

Location: Colorado
Joined: 07/08/2006
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

I dont see the problem unless your interfering with the outfitters clients (following the guides around to locate game you could hunt the general area and still be withiut getting in the way of his clients BUT then agin it is PUBLIC LAND

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Location: Powderhorn, Colorado
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

just because it is public land does not mean it is free for all. In colorado outfitters and cattlemen lease State land and the public are not allowed to hunt it and a lot of time tresspass on it. I'll bet a lot of folks did not know this existed on the books!

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Location: Boise Idaho
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

the key words here are Public Lands,the outfitter does not own them,and i'll bet that the outfitter didn't tell you to stay out Think Think

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Location: north idaho
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

wow, i never realized the breath of replies this would get.

mtcop71

don't assume you might never use a outfitter. On this particular hunt i couldn't find anyone to go with. It was a once in a lifetime tag and i have hunted on my own in wilderness areas enough to know what type of chore it is. This area was about 20 miles from the road.

To be honest i didn't know what i had until after i had it. An idaho once in a lifetime sheep hunt. We drew a middle fork of the salmon permit for rafting and kayaking.and floated the 100 miles on our own. I fell in love with the impassable canyon and put in for a sheep hunt in there. I drew a tag. That is as much thought as i put into it.

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Location: Powderhorn, Colorado
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

what I am trying to tell you is that Colorado State lands that are leased for what ever purpose, belong to the person who is leasing it. The key word here is Colorado State public lands. They have the right to put up no trepassing signs and the whole nine yards. It is not allowed for the public anymore during the lease. Federal land is different.

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Location: Idaho
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?
swollen tongue wrote:
... Colorado State lands that are leased for what ever purpose, belong to the person who is leasing it. The key word here is Colorado State public lands. They have the right to put up no trepassing signs and the whole nine yards. It is not allowed for the public anymore during the lease. Federal land is different.

... this is indeed interesting. And it makes sense - though one might not like or agree with it. If someone leases one of my apartments, I can't just come in whenever I want to and plop myself down and start watching tv, or watch the sunset through what his/her bedroom window ... just because I `own' the property. When I lease the property, I `release' certain rights.

An interestingly similar thing is happening up here on private ag land. The owner may not have a problem with me hunting his property - but he leaves it up the the person / operation he is LEASING it to - to make the decision.

Think Brick Wall,) Think

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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

Same happens here in our area. The person leasing the land has the hunting rights unless specified otherwise by the owner.

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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

Here's the deal in Nova Scotia:

As long as the land is "forested land". privately owned or not. It can be hunted. There are exceptions for Xtree plantations,woods operations etc. of course.
Most Nova Scotia land is privately owned.

Location: Utah
Joined: 02/24/2003
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got a question about hunting in outfitters areas?

Absolutely nothing wrong with it in my opinion. It's public land. To me that's all there is to it from a moral standpoint.

From an ethical standpoint I still think it's ok. When you hire an outfitter you are getting the advantages of pre-season scouting, packing out your animal, camping and food accomodations. So if you go out on your own you are losing all of those things. Just because you go out where an outfitters hunting grounds doesn't mean you know where the biggest bull on the mountain is. So there is nothing ethically wrong with it at ALL!!! It's public land, there is noting cheap, wrong, or shady about it. The only thing that would be wrong is to follow guides at a distance to see where animals are.

I don't care if you go to the same area, the outfitter will still have an advantage due to having horses, and many more eyes and hours in the field. Shouldn't be a problem at all.

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