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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

The following from Paul Begala:

The McCain-Palin Lies and the Neil Armstrong Principle

If John McCain and Sarah Palin were to say the moon was made of green cheese, we can be certain that Barack Obama and Joe Biden would pounce on it, and point out it's actually made of rock. And you just know the headline in the paper the next day would read: "CANDIDATES CLASH ON LUNAR LANDSCAPE."

Why doesn't somebody call Neil Armstrong? He's been there. Or go to the Smithsonian and open the glass case that contains a piece of the moon. The moon is a rock. That's a fact, Jack.

Facts are indeed stubborn things, but the McCain-Palin lies are more stubborn still.

In the face of demonstrable, provable, incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, McCain and Palin continue to assert that Gov. Palin opposed the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere." They do so in their speeches and ads, and their supporters say so on television until their pants are on fire. McCain and Palin also claim the Alaska governor opposes earmarks -- despite the fact that she's gotten her state so much pork she's at risk for trichinosis.

I was in the middle of a Neil Armstrong Moment when I was on CNN Tuesday morning. Rather than let McCain and Palin get away with their lie, anchor John Roberts played a videotape of Sarah Palin in a 2006 gubernatorial debate in which she endorsed the bridge from Ketchikan to Gravina Island saying, "I'm not going to stand in the way of progress that our congressional delegation and the position of strength that they have right now." Perhaps her supporters, noting Palin's support for banning books, teaching creationism and doubting global warming will argue that for her, calling the bridge "progress" was her way of saying she was against it.) But the Anchorage Daily News forecloses that option, reporting, "In September, 2006, Palin showed up in Ketchikan on her gubernatorial campaign and said the bridge was essential for the town's prosperity."

After the videotape ran, I said the media was at fault for letting Palin and McCain get away with "flat out lies." GOP strategist Alex Castellanos manfully tried to shine a cow patty, saying, "The amazing thing about Sarah Palin is when she became governor she actually stood up and said no."

Increasingly frustrated, I pointed out that just was not true, and the "debate" continued.

Most of political debate is subjective: who's more qualified, who's more compassionate, whose experience is more relevant, who has better ideas on health care or energy or global warming or the economy? There is no Objective Truth on those matters, and debate -- even when voices are sometimes raised -- can help voters decide who they agree with. On those matters of subjective judgment it's perfectly appropriate for the media to hold the coats of the candidates and let them fight it out.

But facts ought not be debatable. The media have an obligation to point out when a politician is lying about a matter of fact, but the right-wing attack machine has so cowed some of them you can almost hear them moo. Steve Schmidt, McCain's top dog, is a brilliant and audacious strategist. His candidate has had the most favorable press coverage of any politician of the last century -- fawning, adoring, sycophantic press coverage. And yet he is brutalizing the press, waterboarding them into pretending that whether Gov. Palin supported the "Bridge to Nowhere," or hired an Abramoff-connected lobbyist to secure massive earmarks are somehow debatable.

The real debate is over whether the media will be vigilant watchdogs, sounding the alarm when McCain and Palin lie, or fall back to the role they've played for most of McCain's career: lapdog.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

From Bob Cesca touching on the same points and why I loathe rebup tactics of smear and dishonesty.

BOB CESCA

"Fooled Again

It's happening again. Regardless of the outcome of this thing, it's clear that half of America is falling for the same superficial trickery that gave us eight years of George W. Bush. You know the routine. Who do you want to have a beer with? Who is more plainspoken? Who would you like to drive your kids to hockey?

Only this time around, America is exponentially worse off than it was in 2000 or 2004, which only makes the degree to which certain voters are being tricked all the more infuriating and incomprehensible. Show of hands: have you gone all Howard Beale yet this week?

I'd do the list of Republican Epic Fail, but it's too exhaustively long to enumerate here. So here's a thumbnail. The day after Sarah Palin's historically overrated Edie McClurg With Lying performance at the Republican convention, the Dow tanked 344 points. The day after that, the Republicans got their bounce -- an unemployment rate bounce to 6.1 percent -- the highest level in five years. Two days after that, Secretary Paulson announced the government's "deprivatization" of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. And yesterday, the Dow dropped another 280 points. All of this within the last seven days.

So what are the Republicans and the barbecue media talking about today? A pig metaphor that's older than John McCain. John McCain! A cynical, sell-out politician who chose for his running mate someone who probably thinks Fannie Mae is this and Freddie Mac is this.

It's no wonder why Americans are ignoring issues that are literally right in front of their faces.

Today on MSNBC's Morning Joe, we overheard some accidental truth-telling as to why this is happening. Chris Matthews was on with Scarborough and Andrea Mitchell (sitting in for Mika who, I think, was off updating her Sarah Palin Fansite & Web Shrine) and Matthews was poking Scarborough and Buchanan about their wall-to-wall pig remark coverage.

MATTHEWS: Now, it'll die, as we said, it'll jump the shark. Two days ago, no, we're all talking about -- you're waving the tabloids around, come on. Two days from now -- I want to ask you, what will we talk about two days from now?

SCARBOROUGH: Whatever the McCain campaign wants us to talk about, because the McCain campaign is assertive.

Shockingly honest. To be fair, however, the complicity of far-right talk radio -- all 1,000 radio stations nationwide -- makes Scarborough and Buchanan look like Bernie Sanders and Mike Malloy. Naturally, today, we'll hear righteous indignation all over AM radio -- Rush Limbaugh, who loves his novelty Hillary Clinton nutcracker almost as much as his "feminazi" jokes, drooling on his phallic cigars while decrying Senator Obama's so-called sexist remark.

We all know why this is happening. Senator Obama said it during his convention acceptance speech in Denver:

Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.
You make a big election about small things.
Small things. Like lipstick. And the Republicans get away with it because everyone with barbecue sauce stains on their mouths will, as Scarborough inadvertently admitted, talk about it.

What else gets short-changed in lieu of the small things? Adequate debunking of the most disgusting Republican attack ad since Lee Atwater's Willie Horton ad or Alex Castellanos' White Hands ad. Instead, the new McCain ad depicting Senator Obama as a creepy perv who wants to tell your kids about their down-there places is aired over and over and over on cable. And the very serious discussion swirling around this ad? How will Obama respond to this? Will this damage Obama? When do we get to show the ad again?

You wouldn't know it while watching Morning Joe, but the truth is that the legislation in question had to do with age-appropriate education that would help to protect children from sexual predators. I repeat: to protect children from sexual predators.

Our collective question for Senator McCain has to be: Why are you against that, Senator? Why don't you want to protect our children from perverts, pedophiles and predators? Between that and your vote against SCHIP, it's clear that you aren't interested in keeping America's children safe. Obviously, you'd rather win an election.

It's no wonder why a baffling number of Americans are refusing to vote based on the issues happening literally in their own back yards. And so we have a Republican ticket -- a ticket that exactly matches in every way the Bush-Cheney administration -- enjoying an incongruously high level of polling support, despite the situation on the ground in almost every American town and suburb.

Given their record of success in years past, it's no wonder why the Republicans do what they do. But this goes beyond cause and effect. It's their nature. They're simply unable to govern, so all they have left are their basest, most cynical and depraved instincts. Their presidential ticket is composed of two incompetent, corrupt liars who want to continue the Bush legacy (while also lying about their "change" message). But they're good at whining; they're good at smearing; and they excel at fear-mongering. John McCain has fully embraced Karl Rove's brand of insect politics.

With a complicit barbecue media at their disposal -- a team of fainting goats on cable news and AM radio -- their screaming and stomping gets plenty of airplay. But worse than that, it gets an obscene amount of undue validation. Because when it doesn't, the Republicans crap their cages until the goats faint again. Consequently, casual viewers who aren't as knee-deep in this stuff get the wrong impression as to what's truly important. Or they become so flummoxed by the noise that they throw their hands in the air and, with an exhausted yalp, declare both candidates equally as awful. George W. Bush "won" in 2000 due to that exact phenomenon.

And I remain very confident that Senator Obama is going to win this time. My mantra: the Obama team defeated the most powerful and popular Democratic brand in America. His campaign is the most disciplined we've seen in decades. His financial resources are record-breaking. Yet, if McCain ends up winning this thing, we can only conclude that it's because he so fully embraced a form of Rove Republican politics -- tactics so unprecedented in their deceitfulness and snark that they will have successfully obscured a full decade of undisputed failure, not to mention what Mort Zuckerman called this week "the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression."

In the face of all of this, can anyone seriously deny that John McCain and the Bush Republicans are successfully fooling Americans -- again?"

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

One last one for today. From Benjamin Barber.

If anyone is actually reading these I will say this they accurately portray my view of the repub campaign machine. Half truths, manipulations, and sometimes outright lies. I don't see how honest folks could support these tactics. But, they are effective keeping America's eyes off real issues and on BS.

Moosing Sarah -- Time for the Dems to Leash the Pitbull

"It seems forever since the Democrats completed their triumphant Convention in Denver with its Obama/Biden/Clinton/Kennedy unity ticket and its intoxicating sense of take-it-to-the-finish line momentum. What happened? Not Sarah Palin. How could a small-time Alaska mayor and first term Governor derail the Obama freight train? No it was not Sarah Palin but the extraordinary reaction to McCain's wildly irresponsible decision to make her his running mate that seems to have paralyzed the Party.

Something about Palin scrambled the otherwise steady nerves of the Obama campaign. As if they were believing everything she was saying. Assuming that the Republican base was the country and hence thinking her success at her Convention there would be replicated nationally. (Did you see the face of that convention? Is that really the face of America?) Afraid to be accused of sexism (ironic after how it disposed of Hillary); or of unwarranted anger (Obama sometimes seems like Governor Dukakis, unwilling to rise to the bait even when it would be politically smart to do so).

Why is it so hard simply to tell the truth about Palin? Yes she is a successful and politically smart woman to be admired for that reason. But she is also a typical Republican values hypocrite preaching choice for women - except when it comes to pregnancy; preaching that family should be kept out of the political searchlight - except when it is useful to parade her own family on center stage; preaching against earmarks - except when it help her career to solicit them for Alaska; preaching about America first - except that she actually has made a career out of putting Palin first, Alaska second and America last (check out her Alaska secessionist husband).

She is a successful and politically smart woman, but she is also a right wing extremist who tried to delete books she didn't approve of from the town library where she was mayor and tried to fire the librarian when that didn't work; who is a creationist and, like the current occupant of the White House, who has little use for science, whether it is the science of evolution or the science of global warming; who never had a passport until last year when she visited her National Guard troops in Kuwait. Otherwise a stranger to the world in which America must make its way.

She is a successful and politically smart woman, but she is not merely pro-life, she is a no-exceptions-never-mind-rape-or-incest pro-lifer who thinks woman have no right to participate in decisions about what happens to their bodies if they become pregnant.

What the Democratic leadership has yet to figure out is that the real gender bias in the Palin appointment is the patronizing attitude that assumes what would and should be savaged and ridiculed in a man must be condoned or even welcomed in a woman.

Dukakis was skewered by twisted stories about rapists and released prisoners because he wanted to appear reasonable. War hero Kerry got swift-boated by men who never served in the military. Is Obama now going to let himself get moosed by a parochial Alaskan know-nothing because she's a woman?

Time to get mad. At Palin. At McCain. At the Bushes (yes both of them). Gender equality means women can't hide their biases and dogmatism behind gender.

Speaking of men, it is not really Palin but McCain who is the perpetrator we need to criticize. It is McCain who cynically chose a far right wing ideologue who shares the worst biases of the current administration in Washington and made her his running mate in a "campaign against Washington."

In other words, it is not the pit-bull in lipstick but the man who unleashed her who bears the responsibility. Michael Vick went to prison for turning his pit-bulls loose on others. I'm not recommending putting McCain in jail, just keeping him and his snarling (or is that a smile?) running mate out of the White House. Your move, Senator Obama."

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

SoCoKHntr my friend, I try to stay out of politics and religion much as i can but i think the fair counter point for all to know is that all those authors are liberal democrates. One mans fact is another lie and vise versa untill it all becomes nothing but opinion no matter what side the fence one is on. And THAT is my opinion

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

First I should say that I've often looked at your web site Romney and I seriously wish for one of your knives, or twenty. From other photos of yours I'd assume we are all from the Rocky Mountains.

I'll try to explain what is vexing SoCo using something you are familiar with but continueing his moon rock analogy.

Say someone falsely accused you of simply repackaging Wallmart knives. After you thrashed him well you would explain that the difference between something hand forged and something from an assembly line in China are obvious. You can see it right in the blade, besides every knife is different from every other in the world. Your knives have been acclaimed by every expert who has ever seen them. Yet the liar continues to make his claims, every single day.

No doubt you too would be vexed. How can someone say something that is so obvious to anyone who bothers to look just a tiny bit?

It's not a matter of opinion such as which knife is better, it's a fact, your knives are hand forged and set in wood or antler in your shop.

Your on the money about religion. To each his own. It's not all liberals though, the respectable conservative Wall Street Journal says the same, I'll link later, great knives and good luck with the elk.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

civetcat
I appreciate the kind words.
I have had to defend and exsplain the very analogy you describe and in the end i have found people you "get it" got it long before i spoke and those that dont never will. To continue with the analogy, I see alot of custom knives, several thousand each year from a waide range of makers, Most of the customs look very nice, might even feel good in the hand but you really dont know a thing about them untill you use them and many of them simple are crap to point many factory knve will perform as well.
I can talk all day long about how and why i do my heat treat the way i do, use big long scientific words to add wow factor to the speach but in the end the person im talking to simpley doesnt in any way shape or form know what it can or cant do untill they use it. In other words its easy to buff a peice of wood and make it pop, but another thing to have solid dependable tool you can rely on.
My previous point wasnt to confirm or deny the authors point but only to be fair so everyone understand they ARE Liberal Dems and that its not the word of god coming down from the mountain.
On a personal note, i find it ironic that not so long ago Mcain was concidered a darling withing the democrats, I dont think at the root there is much more the a hairs differnce in Mcain and Joe Biden at times.
My last point and again personal opinion and likely last thing ill say on here on as far as out current politics is this. As far as what is "obvious" I sit and think the same thing about Obama and his crew.
As i said before one mans fact is just a opinion to another.
I hope you all have a succeful hunts and ill catcha at the peak.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.
Romey wrote:
civetcat
I appreciate the kind words.
I have had to defend and exsplain the very analogy you describe and in the end i have found people you "get it" got it long before i spoke and those that dont never will. To continue with the analogy, I see alot of custom knives, several thousand each year from a waide range of makers, Most of the customs look very nice, might even feel good in the hand but you really dont know a thing about them untill you use them and many of them simple are crap to point many factory knve will perform as well.
I can talk all day long about how and why i do my heat treat the way i do, use big long scientific words to add wow factor to the speach but in the end the person im talking to simpley doesnt in any way shape or form know what it can or cant do untill they use it. In other words its easy to buff a peice of wood and make it pop, but another thing to have solid dependable tool you can rely on.
My previous point wasnt to confirm or deny the authors point but only to be fair so everyone understand they ARE Liberal Dems and that its not the word of god coming down from the mountain.
On a personal note, i find it ironic that not so long ago Mcain was concidered a darling withing the democrats, I dont think at the root there is much more the a hairs differnce in Mcain and Joe Biden at times.
My last point and again personal opinion and likely last thing ill say on here on as far as out current politics is this. As far as what is "obvious" I sit and think the same thing about Obama and his crew.
As i said before one mans fact is just a opinion to another.
I hope you all have a succeful hunts and ill catcha at the peak.

Romey, I see where you are coming from and respect what you are saying. However, in this mans view the articles I posted are close to the truth, even being written by writers that are Democrat or left leaning, or liberal, whatever tag fits.

Hey, good luck on your hunt, I've been packing my gear and leave tomorrow for nine days of chasing elk, deer, and bear, with my muzzleloader.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

I know as much as you may hate to admit it both sides are guilty of smear tactics. What this comes down to is the fact that liberals are tired of losing. They see their time to shine fading away, and thus are creating an "its not fair"mentaility. What it comes down to is the fact that becuase it took so long for hilliary to bow out the fight between obama and her were news and mccain wasnt, so now that its just obama Mccain is getting some coverage. Also the fact that Palin is an actual down to earth person, which people want to know about. Also why dont you sit back and look and see who the general public wants to know about. That will be the person the media seeks out, why because more viewers means more dollars for a company. Everyone makes out except for the guy who keeps saying the same thing, no one cares because its been the same for months.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

This is probably another article brought to you by the far right media
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c2f69ce-8031-11dd-99a9-000077b07658.html

If you post the link, I dont have to stare at the small print on the screen and also then I have your source to use as a basis. Just a thought

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

The media's working for McCain...what a hoot! Laugh

I'll file that one away with:

"I am not a crook."

"I did not have sex with that woman."

"The Americans are nowhere near Baghdad."

I laugh my butt off every day, watching the left implode.

The smart thing to do would've been to say, "Senator McCain's choice of Governor Palin is impressive, and she's accomplished a lot. However, we differ on a number of issues of substance."

But they didn't -- they couldn't. It's like they have OCD -- they can't help themselves, and all they can do is attack to destroy...even if they wipe themselves out in the process.

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Good article on the collusion of the media and Mccain.

I have believed that the democrats worst enemies are themselves. They get to the point of almost succeding and then try to over do it.

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