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Glove compartment gun

Does anyone have a sidearm that stays in their glove compartment or in their vehicle somewhere? If so, what?

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The only way a gun should be

The only way a gun should be left in your vehicle unattended is if you have some sort of lock box bolted down in the trunk or someplace else not easily gotten into.

And if I'm in the vehicle I will be wearing the gun so the glove box would not be needed.

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Agreed

hunter25 wrote:

The only way a gun should be left in your vehicle unattended is if you have some sort of lock box bolted down in the trunk or someplace else not easily gotten into.

And if I'm in the vehicle I will be wearing the gun so the glove box would not be needed.

Have to say I completely agree. Glove boxes are for gloves. Oh! and give my regards to Doc Holiday there in Glenwood Springs!

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Hawkeye270, I have to agree with Hunter25 on this one!  I have no idea what the law requires in Colorado, but in most places your firearms must be secured to avoid it falling into the wrong hands, such as teenagers who are the usual car burglars!

  The safest place for your handgun is on your person, however if you don't have  a concealed carry permit then the lock box is a better idea than the glovebox!   I understand that Colorado is a sheriff outhorized carry permit, rather than a state "MUST ISSUE" permit, after a federal, and state background check, like Texas. In some states you can have a handgun in your automobile any time but you can't carry on your person.  Those states that don't have a "MUST ISSUE" type license the sheriff issued permit will not be honored by Texas. Also in Texas and many other states if someone gets your unattended firearm from your car you will be held responcible for what is done with that firearm. 

The Texas CHL (concealed handgun license) requires a state , and a FBI background check, and 16 hours of classroom training on the penal code, and show range proficiency with the firearm, and if there is anything in your background that even looks out of place you will not get a permit in Texas.  However if your back ground is clean the state MUST ISSUE your permit. I have had my permit from six months before they were to become active, and that was 16 years ago. The Texas carry permit is honored in 27 states, even in some who's permits we don't honor!     

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Actually Colorado changed a

Actually Colorado changed a few years back and is now a shall issue or as you said must issue state. A class is required and background check but once passed they must issue your permit within 90 days.

Even if you do not have a permit you can still carry concealed in your car as it is considered an extension of your home. Of course if you get out of your car and step away from it you are in violation. But the gun can still be carried loaded legaly in any area of your vehicle. This only applies to handguns as the chamber must be empty on any long gun.

And Colorado is reciprocal with Texas at this time.

My concern in this case is leaving a firearm unattended for any period of time. 20 years ago you could leave your car for several days anywhere around here with no problems. these days if you leave it overnight away from any lit area and you might not find much left.

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I agree with the others on

I agree with the others on never to leave a firearm in a vehicle.  That is unless you want to donate it to someone who breaks into your car or truck.  If you really want one to keep in a vehicle go take the CCW class and get your license and then pack it with you where you can.  If you insist on keeping one inside a vehicle then find a gun safe that can be bolted to the cars frame and not just to the sheet metal.  Just remember that no matter where you hide it a thief can find it and if they want it they will usually get it unless it takes them some time to pry it out of the car. 

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I agree with the others.  Anywhere you keep a gun it needs to be secured for unauthorized handling.  Also it's best prctice to avoid telling people where you have guns kept.  If you keep one in your vehicle for protection, keep it on the low down, if you know what I mean.  When the word gets out that you keep a gun in your vehicle, it's a lot like announcing that you're carrying gold and money in your vehicle.  It just makes you a target for thieves. Same goes for the guns in your home.  Try not to make it common knowledge around people.  Also try to avoid indicating to people exactly where in your home you store guns.  It's just good policy, that's all.

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Lock Box

I have a lock box bolted to the floor of my truck for those times I need to secure a weapon and cannot have it on my person. There is no gun, rifle, pistol, or shotgun that I would be willing to leave unattended and unsecured in my vehicle.

It's bad enough that I drive a truck that has a high theft potential. I would hate to arm my enemy as well. My enemies are felons and Grand Theft Auto is a felony. The lock box, while not total security, will keep honest people honest and force the dishonest to devote more time to acquiring the weapon than an unsecured weapon will. That devotion of time element works in my favor in that it allows the suspect more opportunity to be seen and caught.

 

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.45 ACP

Not a single person answered his question.  He asked what to carry, not how to do it.

I suggest compact semi-automatic handgun chambered in a large caliber.  I use a Bersa Firestorm chambered in .45 ACP.

I keep it locked in the glovebox when I'm not in the car.  I also advise against big NRA stickers and other politically motivated bumper stickers that let thieves know you might have a gun in the car. Thumbs up

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.45 in a compact gun?

Adam_R wrote:

Not a single person answered his question.  He asked what to carry, not how to do it.

I suggest compact semi-automatic handgun chambered in a large caliber.  I use a Bersa Firestorm chambered in .45 ACP.

I keep it locked in the glovebox when I'm not in the car.  I also advise against big NRA stickers and other politically motivated bumper stickers that let thieves know you might have a gun in the car. Thumbs up

Actually he didn't ask what to carry or how to carry it.  He asked what (we) any of us carry in our glove compartment. 

Why go with a compact model in .45 ACP?  I like the .45 ACP, but in my experience I've come to dislike it in a compact pistol for various reasons. I think the .45ACP cartridge is most efficient in a full powered load with 230 grain bullet out of a 5 inch barrel.  I think it becomes very inefficient really fast by firing it from a short barreled compact gun, you also lose capacity, and gain a lot more recoil.  Compact semi-auto pistols are great, but I think they are better served with smaller cartridges.  Personally if I wanted a larger caliber in a compact gun I go with revolvers that handle .357 mag perhaps. But that's just my take on it.

I completely agree with you on the bumper stickers and the avoidance of indirect advertising.

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If somebody does break into

If somebody does break into your vehicle the glove box is one of the first places that they are going to look for something to take.  Also if they had to break into your car in the first place the lock on the glove box is not going to stop them from getting in any 50 cent screwdriver will pop it open.  It is a lot like car alarms.  When they first came out people would pay attention to them when they went off, now it is just another bell and horn ringing along with all the rest of them in the parking lot. 

Now if I intented to keep a firearm inside my vehicle it would not be a compact .45 just for the reasons that WesternHunter gave and I wouldn't use one for a CCW weapon either.  There are a lot better calibers out there that you can control a lot better than the .45.  I don't like 9mm's but it would be on my list followed with the .40's.  I personally like the revolvers in .38 or even the .32.  If you can't get it done with 6 rounds you have other problems. 

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