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Getting rid of Bears

I got a question to ask for all the Bear hunters here and, yes, I am serious.

While you are out hunting Black Bear, what is the 1 thing that you DO NOT want to do that would positively, absolutely ruin your Bear hunt?

I can not hunt Bear here...yet....but they have overtaken my lease and the Deer will not come anywhere near the food plots as long as the Bears are visiting them. I have no clue as to why they are coming into the plots and I can find nothing that they are eating out of them.
All Of my stands are on the trails leading too and from these plots but the Deer are going over to the next property over from mine and there is no place to set up on them where they are traveling between the two properties.

Help please !!!

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

That's a tough one, because you need to get rid of the bears without scaring the deer away as well.

Bears live through their noses. Thus, the big ticket to bear hunting is scent management. Human scent may spook them where they're hunted, but I just wear a used T-shirt to my stand and leave it -- the bears quickly get used to the scent and ignore it. Last spring my son's bear came in and circled the stand right under us, looking right at us.

So one question I'd ask would be why your property is more attractive to the bears than your neighbor's. Is it access to water? Maybe it's a food source -- the only thing you see in a bear's eyes is "Can I eat that?". Since they're omnivorous, they could be after anything from roots to honey to berries to insects. Any nuts on the ground?

Another question: are the deer moving because of bears, or is your neighbor offering them something better? Are the bears pushing the deer, or is the neighbor pulling them?

How big is your property? If you can't hunt bears, can you bait them to another part of your property away from the food plots and trails?

What about dogs? If people use dogs against bears but not deer, it might be worthwhile to take a dog in there to mark the place up.

That's all the brainstorming I can come up with at the moment.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

I was afraid that scent would be the best answer.

I have not had the chance to talk to my neighbors so I have no idea what they are putting out for Deer attractant much less why the Bears have decided on my spit of land to make their playground. Corn is the most widely used attractant but Bears love it also so I would think that if the neighbors were using that they would have the Bear problem instead of me.

I am not using corn and have not tried a feeder, just food plots. One (larger one) is planted with White and crimson clover, soybeans, rye, and radishes. Smaller Plot is one that I built so that my 9 year old son could help me with from start to finish to learn how to plant, "farming" is what I tell him we are doing. It was required of him if he wanted to learn the outdoors and hunting. The smaller plot has the BioLogic mix of chicory, rye, rape and clover. I have added carrots and radishes also to the mix. I also planted a small amount of oats buy they didn't take for some reason.
I can not determine what the Bears are eating in either plot, only that trail cams have shown them lurking around in the plots for hours at a time on some occasions. There was an abundant supply of huckleberries, blackberries and nut grass that the Bears fed on but all but nut grass is gone now.

My property is 160+/- acres and has 2 fairly small swamp heads about 500 or 600 yards apart and that's where Bears are bedding at but they were crossing the road and meandering around off my property. The Deer are bedding along a drainage ditch to the west and along a fire break to the east but centrally located on the property. They are now just crossing the ditch and road going onto the neighboring property. A good trail follows between the 2 swamp heads and onto the fire break, along a small ditch and into the largest plot. I have stands at the small ditch and about 100 yards from one of the swamp heads. I built an elevated shooting house for my son to hunt out of with me so that any restless movement will be concealed and it is within sight of his plot about 150 yards away and along a small dim road that the deer use also.

I have considered placing a feeder at the far north end of the property and fill it with corn to attempt to draw the Bears away from my stand locations but have not yet tried that.
I am at a loss, there are 3 Bears on the trail cams, all adults.

I am going to try using my climber in a small stand of trees that are close to the ditch where Deer bed but that will be danger close to their beds......dunno Confused

thanks for the brainstorming ex.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

Are the bears and deer coming in at different times of the day? If so, it raises the question of whether they're actually competing. But another thought that came to mind would be that if you know when and where the bears show up, and the deer aren't around at the time, you could possibly go in there and scare them off. The first thing that came to mind was sitting in a stand launching 12 gauge bird bombs toward them. I don't know what the laws down there are, or whether such a thing would constitute "harrassing" wildlife, but if using your food plot isn't far superior (for bears) than other areas but involves the risk of explosions going off around them, they might consider looking for a more peaceful location. If your deer are around at the same time it'd probably be counterproductive, but if the two species are deconflicted it might do something.

Are the bears hitting the carrots and radishes? Bears up here tend to love tubers because they're more substantial an offer more calories. There's a wild tuber up here you see dug up a lot in bear territory.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

Well, I have seen no Deer on trail cams since Bear pics started showing up.
Bear pics are generally taken early morning but during daylight hours, between 6:30 and 9:00 AM and only one set of pics are during darkness and those were taken around 9 PM. I have yet to see one from a stand though, but there are pics of them in the plot(larger one) that was taken at a time that I was in a stand.
Bears not eating radishes or carrots, Deer destroyed them as soon as they came up !! I really can't find what the Bears are eating unless they are just grazing on the clover and pics really don't show what they are eating. Strange.

Deer pics were abundant at all hours of the day and night in the plots. Really good Bucks along trails but they don't seem to be showing up in the plots unless they are staying along the edges and out of camera range.

Bears are still considered a Threatened Species so no harm or harassment can take place but I do like your Idea of scaring the crap out of them. There ain't no Deer coming around anyways so what do I have to lose. No stand sitting this weekend, noise maker and rubber boots and a quiet stalk to the plots.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

Just because you're in bed with the agricultural corporations doesn't mean you're entitled to more deer than your neighbor. Your deer have been redistributed for the benefit of the community. In fact, since you're obviously well off and better able to handle them, we've sent the community's bears to your property. I'm sure this makes you happy, and no doubt you'll work even harder on those food plots to keep the bears from bothering anyone else. As a matter of fact, we can probably help you out with a program to grow more bear-friendly food plots, funded by the tax dollars you've paid on the deer you've produced.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

There is a bear dog training season in Florida. They can't shoot the bears but they can train on them. If you were to contact the Florida Bear Hunters Assoc. I'm sure that some guy's would be willing to come and run the bears out once in awhile. If they are good dogs they won't chase the deer. Deer are much more teritorial than bears and they should stay in the area while the bears are more likely to find a new place where they don't get chased by the dogs.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears
expatriate wrote:
Just because you're in bed with the agricultural corporations doesn't mean you're entitled to more deer than your neighbor. Your deer have been redistributed for the benefit of the community. In fact, since you're obviously well off and better able to handle them, we've sent the community's bears to your property. I'm sure this makes you happy, and no doubt you'll work even harder on those food plots to keep the bears from bothering anyone else. As a matter of fact, we can probably help you out with a program to grow more bear-friendly food plots, funded by the tax dollars you've paid on the deer you've produced.

You're just mad cause I don't feed My "precieved" Deer ACORNs

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Re: Getting rid of Bears
hunter777 wrote:
There is a bear dog training season in Florida. They can't shoot the bears but they can train on them. If you were to contact the Florida Bear Hunters Assoc. I'm sure that some guy's would be willing to come and run the bears out once in awhile. If they are good dogs they won't chase the deer. Deer are much more teritorial than bears and they should stay in the area while the bears are more likely to find a new place where they don't get chased by the dogs.

That sounds like a good idea hunter777.
I'll have to check with Club President to see if he'll allow the Dogs as this is a Still Hunt only lease.
I did receive a note from the Pres asking for any photos of Bears because they are gathering data and evidence to conclude an over population of Bears and to ask for a possible short Bear season on our lease.
There are areas of Florida that do allow Bear hunting but they are tightly controlled and have small quotas.

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Re: Getting rid of Bears
JTapia wrote:
You're just mad cause I don't feed My "precieved" Deer ACORNs

Touche! Well played, good sir...nicely done. Thumbs up

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Re: Getting rid of Bears

throw some steaks and raw meat on the nieghboring property the bears will go over there and the deer will get scared back to you. lol ha ha !!! but seriously thats a hard one what ever would scare there bears out might scare the deer out.

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