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Getting drawn in Colorado?

So when applying for Elk in Colorado like in unit 54 and the stat's say you need 3 points for non resident muzzle loader season and if we have 2 points coming into this year, does this mean we will draw for sure this year since it will be our 3rd year point or does it mean we need 3 points plus next year or is it still a draw and totally up in the air?  We are looking at a couple other areas and options I also have 3 deer points and need 4 for that area and was looking at that also.  Man it's hard to get fired up not knowing for sure. Confused  Last time in 2009 we bought 2nd rifle over the counter, this waiting and not knowing for sure Sucks Big time, "lol" oh well keeps me in shape just thinking we might be going. I really do enjoy reading throughout this forum there's some good info and some great stories. Thanks Karl

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If you need 3 points for a

If you need 3 points for a certain tag, and you have 2 points. You won't get the tag this year, but you'll get the 3rd point you can use next year.

With that said. Isn't unit 54 OTC?  Are you talking about rifle season?

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Muzzle loader! Last time we

Muzzle loader! Last time we went 2nd rifle and that was over the counter!

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Yep, you'll need to wait at

Yep, you'll need to wait at least another year.  On the CPW website, the minimum points required to draw the tag is listed as 3 points on the "Minimum Preference Point Info" sheet.  However, if you look at the draw data, 28 non-residents drew the tag last year and of the 125 non-resident applicants, 31 had 4 points or more.  That means it took 4 points to draw that tag, not 3.

Just because it took 4 points last year, doesn't mean it will take that many this year.  In all likelihood, it will be similar but could change based on the number of hunters applying for the tag and the number of tags being issued.

Good luck on the draw!  Hope you get your hunts.

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good explanation

For further clarification, your prefence point will be earned AFTER you fail to draw your first choice and can be used next year.  At which point, you'll still likely be a point behind in this particular example.

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Meathunter hit it right on

Meathunter hit it right on the head. Just because the stats say 3 points does not mean you will get a tag. That is the bear minumum to get a tag. Put in for your preference point but plan on hunting somewhere else for sure. Maybe next year you will draw in 54.

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Move next door to 55. You

Move next door to 55. You have enough points for an either sex tag. Or put in for a point on your 1st choice, and a cow for your 2nd choice. You get to hunt this and next year,or as long as it takes to get enough points for the unit you want.

I'll take anything instead of not hunting.

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Thanks for all the advice. I

Thanks for all the advice. I live 2 hunt, I feel you can do that out any door in my eyes, I know not all hunting is like what I've experinced in Colorado elk hunting. I do apply for elk here in Michigan every year or a chance too.. But to hunt that far and get others to go along with that much time off, and the cost, I've just had a hard time finding someone. But thats why I asked this question so I can learn and really do apperciate all the different ideas and info. The guy putting in with me now has lots of young kids, so not sure if he can do more than one year!     

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Thanks for the thread.

In 2013 the muzzie season is as close to "prime-time" as colorado gets.  So waiting one year may not be so bad. 

 

I will apply for my first point in with the hope they might do it agian. 

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try Montana

No muzzleloader season, but their archery season goes all way through most of October.  Even our archery season ends a little late this year.  Gauranteed draw (if last year is an indication) and you can hunt with a rifle in a few serious backcountry units with a rifle from Mid September onward if you want.

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