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December 2003 Poll:

In general, nonresident hunting is...

This month's poll is about nonresident hunting. Do you feel that hunting outside your home state or province has become unfair? Is it an issue of low license allocation, high costs, or both? What would you do to correct the situation if anything?

As a resident, do you feel your state or province is fair in its treatment of nonresidents? Do you feel restrictive nonresident hunting policies must be left in place (or increased) to prevent your favorite hunting spots from being overrun?

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i dont particularly care for non-resident hunting (with the exception of friends and relatives) but i dont have much say so in the matter round here

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I think the cost for Non-Resident hunters are getting out of hand Just becasue you live in another state does not mean you should be raped in the pocket book for a tag non res hunter put money in the economy of lots of small town and the state.

I love to hunt and hunt as much as I can. I bow and firearm hunt in both MN,WI. MN charges up to 176.00 for a Deer licence Wis is at 135.00 and rumor has it it it is going up for the 2004 season for non res. now a resident pays a fraction of that. I am not saying that non res should pay the same as a resident but it is starting to look like we are not wanted and or our money is not needed in the small towns that get over run with hunters each fall.

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To me it seems that most states are fair in costs and caps on nonresidents. However some states seem to be sliding toward fewer tags and higher costs, with no end in sight.

There are other "hidden" costs that get tacked on as well, such as the requirement of using a registered guide if you are a nonresident in some states. I have nothing against guides/outfitters, but when a rare tag is drawn and paid for, why should you be required to pay for a guides company if you don't want it?

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It seems that if a state requires you to tell them what state you are from for a price on hunting licence and it is different for certain states, isn't that illegal? (discrimination) Some states are saying over-population is a problem. Looking at the prices is problem enough, i don't feel i need to purchace part of the state in order to hunt a couple of days.

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I think some states have "reciprical" nonresident fee's. They charge you the same amount that your state would charge a non-resident for a licence. MAYBE!?!?

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That's interesting, I've never heard of that with recipocal fees. Maybe that would level the playing field. Do you know of any states that do that hunter777?

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Since the question was are they fair IN GENERAL - I would say GENERALLY yes. I don't have a problem with paying more for a tag since I don't live there and my provincial income tax doesn't contribute to the province's Natural Resource budget.

GENERALLY speaking, I agree with being required to use a local guide from a conservation point to ensure that all local regs are followed and as a safety issue (so you don't get lost). I would add though, that perhaps non-residents could be exempt from the guide requirement if they passed a test on local hunting regs (if it was up to me).

I also agree with fewer tags for non-residents. The people who actually live there should have maximum opportunity to hunt their game.

I do have somewhat of a personal stake in this - since as I am now a non-resident of both SK and NS (the 2 places I have hunted before). My biggest b*tch regarding non-res hunting in SK is the ridiculous seasons I'm restricted to. If I want to hunt on our farm where I grew up and learned to hunt (the little I know about it anyway - lol) I can only hunt the last week of the season (late Nov).

Some provinces up here, NF and NS for sure have a provision that if you are from that province and join the military you are still considered a resident. I tried to get the same thing in SK and was told (eventually) by Buckley Belanger, Minister of Environment that since I VOLUNTARILY left SK to seek employment elsewhere I forfeitted my resident status. (Last time I looked at a map SK was landlocked and there were no naval bases) If I wanted resident priviledges I should quit the military and move back home.

In subsequent letters/emails he also went on to say that "you are not from SK, you are from NS" That really got my goat. Screw U Belanger!

OK - I feel better now. I'll shut up.

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On 2003-12-18 23:39, bitmasher wrote:
That's interesting, I've never heard of that with recipocal fees. Maybe that would level the playing field. Do you know of any states that do that hunter777?

Heres what I found on the Maryland fish and wildlife website. It has to do with the states that border it. Look about halfway down the page, under non-resident lisenses.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/huntersguide/2002license.html

Also, the term reciprocal to other states may mean that if a body of water separates the two states, A hunter with a license from either state may hunt that body of water (as is the case with NJ and Pa on the Delaware river) as long as they follow the laws of the state in which they are hunting and launching from.

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Good link. Your right and it would be interesting if this was widely implemented. Perhaps it would limit the skyrocketing fees of some states, although it might not.

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I don't have a problem with paying more for a tag since I don't live there and my provincial income tax doesn't contribute to the province's Natural Resource budget.

That is an interesting statement too. At least here in CO the DOW is not subsidized by the tax payer. All revenue comes from the sales of licenses and tax deductable donations (it is a write in on the CO state tax form).

So at least in the CO case, it can be said there is no distinction between a resident tax payer and a non-resident.

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