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http://www.gallup.com/poll/114184/Public-Support-Stimulus-Package-Unchan...

Is gallup some sort of liberal organisation? Or one of the oldest and most respected polling firms? Why do the numbers seem different from those I've been hearing (without reference to source) on you know where of late.

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civetcat wrote:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114184/Public-Support-Stimulus-Package-Unchanged.aspx

Is gallup some sort of liberal organisation? Or one of the oldest and most respected polling firms? Why do the numbers seem different from those I've been hearing (without reference to source) on you know where of late.

From your link,

In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

Polls conducted entirely in one day, such as this one, are subject to additional error or bias not found in polls conducted over several days.

Could this be the reason for inconsistencies between Gallup and "unnamed other sources"?

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Polls are worthless, because they're so easly manipulated. You can do a lot of things that skew the data, and yet still be "scientific."

I've been called by national pollsters, to include Gallup. One of the things I've noticed is a tendency to steer respondents in a particular direction with a series of questions that posture the thought process toward a particular position. This may or may not be intentional, but the process tends to elicit responses that may not be representative of actual views held by the respondent. I've noticed "reputable" polling organizations try to steer me down a path to position me to respond in a particular way to the key question they intend to publish.

Question wording has a huge effect, and there's almost no way to counter it.

Polls can keep you on the phone for a half hour answering questions, when all they're after is one thing. The point is to generate a whole bunch of answers that can be cherry picked to the pollster's advantage.

Opinion polls aren't scientific because they only get people who have telephones and are home at particular times. They also only get responses from people who are willing to spend the time taking the poll.

Polls can pigeonhole you into responses by insisting you select one of four multiple choice answers. Those answers may not include the view of the respondent -- in which case the respondent's views aren't recorded, or else the view is miscounted by the respondent picking something else that is "close."

Democrats love polls because they're easily manipulated and are a form of peer pressure on the populace -- you want to think you're part of the main stream, don't you? What do most Americans think?

Did you ever notice that whenever the Dems are having trouble pushing something, the media runs all kinds of polls showing how the public supports some aspect of it? It's their way of showing how everyone admires the Emperor's new outfit in order to stifle dissent.

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I agree whole heartedly.
Their key is the term " Which of the following BEST represents your view".

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I read somewhere else that polls show support for the "stimulus" bill was 54%. This surprises me because I don't think I know anybody that supports it. That doesn't mean the numbers are wrong, though, I guess. It just means I keep good company.

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I would've liked to see the results for the following questions:

- Do you think the stimulus bill is a wise use of taxpayer resources?

- Do you believe the stimulus bill will provide economic recovery?

But they won't report stats like that -- the media never reports poll results that disagree with the Democratic position. It's like it's written in doctrine somewhere.

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Good polsters shouldn't attempt to cherry pick results. They shouls also state how the question was worded. Often times phone calls from polsters aren't polsters per se but push pollsters trying to get you to form an opinion.

Some polsters not only got the presidential results to within a point but got the results in every state to within 2%. Computers have allowed a lot of opportunity for people to get better results. Like random dialing numbers to get cell phones, or adjusting for age sampling errors. In this case methodology is given.

Here' another more recent poll trying to guage support again.

Govt jobs better than tax cuts
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114256/Gov-Projects-Seen-Better-Job-Creation-...
Some of the greatest differences Repub/Dem are in education versus tax breaks for businesses.

More
http://www.gallup.com/poll/114202/Obama-Upper-Hand-Stimulus-Fight.aspx

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