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The French lack of support on Iraq hasn't been that big of a deal to me. They are the French afterall...

However I picked up the Denver Post today and under the fold was an AP photo of Paris protesters burning the U.S. flag while waving an unmarred Iraq flag in the background.

They say a photo is worth a thousand words and this one certainly illicted a few from me, none of which were very nice and I won't repeat here.

I'm disgusted and saddened that French protesters would burn the American flag. To disagree with the war is one thing, to disrespect the banner under which so many Americans died liberating their rear ends is entirely another matter.

I have got nothing against the French (except these flag burners of course); however I figured I would post something about this photo here, since I found it so distrubingly thoughtless.

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I am not a political science major, so I rely on what I see on the news, and the general take on the French is they are a two bit player, and the only way they can seem important is to buck the U.S., so that is what they are doing, seems to be backfireing on them though. The above is a condensed version of the facts.

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The French are like an aging beauty queen -- no longer the center of attention but prone to think they still are.

I have a lot of strong feelings on the issue. But one of the most significant is the thought that there's over 66,000 American soldiers buried in 11 cemeteries throughout France -- and that doesn't count the ones who came back. We spent a lot of blood giving them their country back twice in the 20th Century, plus around 47,000 more in Vietnam after the French turned tail and ran. We also bore the burden of defending Western Europe for roughly 45 years, allowing France to spend their money on other things. And in return they burn our flag and do their best to stop us from taking out a threat to our country.

How ironic that there are Polish troops fighting with us in Iraq, and there's Czech troops with us as well. Bulgaria stood by us in the Security Council. These were our enemies while we defended France and Germany. Yet our enemies cried out to be like us while our friends spit on us. It'll be a cold day in Hades before I'll buy anything French again.

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Its sad indeed about the French. The strongest message we can send to them is to boycott their products. I know locally restaurants & liquor stores are pulling the French wines, I hope this is going on all over the USA. Collectively we can make a dent in their pocketbook.

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The French are like an aging beauty queen

That gives me a bad visual of Chirac in drag with a tiara and sceptor.... yikes!

Anyway, the flag burning did make me immediately think of WWII and the price paid in American lives to liberate them. Clearly the Paris protesters are not using their heads any more than American's that frivolously burn their own flag. A trip to Normandy or Arlington walking through the white crosses would sober them considerably.

None the less, boycotting the French is a bit extreme, Cowgal. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think the flag burning is indicative of the country at large.

France is just not big on war, regardless of who is doing the fighting or for what cause. Their political position centers around diplomacy even when the enemy is busting down their door and throttling them. We also can't forget who gave us the statue of liberty.

When our troops find the wmd, we can shove it in Chirac's face (and Schroeder's too) and remind the French that Americans are people of principle who only go to war when there is no other option.

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None the less, boycotting the French is a bit extreme, Cowgal. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think the flag burning is indicative of the country at large.

Sorry bit, but I feel as civilians, our only recourse is boycotting. The flag burning may not be indicative of the the country at large, however their official political stance against our action in Iraq says it all. I don't have a problem with a difference of opinion, however when push came to shove they should have (officially & politically) supported us.

The statue of liberty was given at a time when the French were grateful and remembered what Americans had done for them. They obviously have forgotten now, which is unfortunate.

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The statue of liberty was donated long before D-day and was a gift because French backers respected American dedication to civil liberties. Besides the statue of liberty the french supported us against britian in the american revolution.

I'm not trying to make light of Chirac's wielding a veto, it is a serious slap. I'm simply trying to point out that France has been a supporter of the States throughout history. French and American ideals are similar, France just leans toward diplomacy even when they should know better.

As a practical matter though, how are you going to boycott France? Stop eating french fries (bad attempt at a joke)? Seriously though, the only major French company (that exports to the US) that comes to my mind is Vivendi and they seem to be doing a fine job of destroying their finances w/o a boycott. France does a bang up job in the fashion industry, but considering a fashion statement for me is a new pair of levi's, I doubt I can really hurt the french fashion scene by holding back my buying power...

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If you look at the date the statue was given to the US, you're right... it was way before WW1 and WW2, however it was still given because the French respected freedom and democracy.

About what to boycott, the only thing that comes to mind for me is French wine. I don't know much about the French economy or what they export overall, but I do know we drink a lot of French wine here.

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Here is a list of French companies.

http://www.boycottwatch.org/misc/france-04.htm

Not sure how reliable this list is, since they list Nissan???

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Well, now they want to be "involved" with Iraq's reconstruction. A newsman on Fox network has just blasted them for it. Whatever they are, they are arrogant. They will lose tons of money on tourism. Lets see what they say when it sinks in, Americans are one of the most traveled people in the world, this will get their attention.

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Of course France wants to be involved with Iraq's reconstruction. After all, Saddam's Air Force (or what's left of it) is largely comprised of French Mirage aircraft. France also built the air defense system we had to destroy in the first Gulf War. France helped Iraq build its first nuclear reactor, which the Israelis destroyed in '81 to prevent it from going online. France also trained Iraq's nuclear scientists, and sold Iraq high-grade uranium years ago. France was also illegally selling aircraft parts to Iraq through intermediaries as recently as January. Chirac and Hussein have a longstanding personal relationship that goes deeper than politics.

We're all too familiar with the kind of Iraq France helped build. I certainly hope we won't let them build another one.

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