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My husband has a moose hunt scheduled in Newfoundland in Sept. Since we live in Texas he would rather fly than drive, but he is worried about his hunting rifle getting lost or stolen on the flight. What do you think? Thanks

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He needs to contact Customs in Canada. They require a payment and a form to bring a firearm into Canada. The amount was reduced last year to somewhere around $30.00. Check the amount and how long it is good for. It used to be a year but is now less than that. Do it ahead of time if possible.
He needs a hard-sided, locked case for the gun, and the ammunition must also be in a hard sided container, but NOT in with the rifle. Last year I used a small box in with my clothes. Trigger lock is also required.
Because you are so far away from the Canadian border, make the calls now, check with the airline, and be prepared for several of the people you talik with to not know or understand the regulations.
The Canadian firearms laws seem to confuse the Canadians, too.

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Monica
Dave has some good advice on flying with a gun and ammo.
The airlines loosing luggage is always a risk, ask anyone that flys alot. Now very often it is found and returned to you but it may take mult days. On a hunting trip to Newfoundland you do not have a few days to wait for your gun to show up and then get delivered to you 100miles out in the bush! My advice is to ship (FedEx etc.) the gun out first. Contact the outfitter and let them know you are shipping it to them (well in advance) and ask the outfitter to call you back and confirm that the gun has arrived. In my experience this stops most of the issues associated with flying with firearms.

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Do not attempt to ship your firarm/ammunition to Canada. That won't work.

Contact The Canadian Firearm Center via Internet. You can download the form you need to complete.
Make sure you carry the proper identification as required by The form/Canadian FirearmCenter.
A confirmation letter from your guide/outfitter is recommended
Customs Canada will want to see your necessary ID,your temporary import permit and will check for criminal record etc.
I would suspect your Guide/Outfitter will be meeting your husband at Airport. He/she does this on a regular basis and probably know the Customs folks . by name.
Firearm must be encased and a trigger lock affixed.
Ammo must be in a locked box(cheap plastic lockable tool box) will do
The absense of a Criminal Record, completed permit form and necessary ID will be the first step to a good trip.
Contact your Outfitter for more infomation or questions. He/she knows the process very well, it's their job, and they do it very well.
Canada does have strick firearms laws but it mainly for us. Visiting hunters are quite the norm(especially Newfoundland) and are very welcomed.
The last thing CustomsCanada is concerned about is someone from the USA comming for a hunting trip, you're really not a top priority, that's a good thing

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Hammer1 wrote:
Do not attempt to ship your firarm/ammunition to Canada. That won't work.

Ok then good call on this. I have shipped hunting guns within the US (tho reading Monicas responce to this same question in "Eastern Canada" sounds like FedEx says that may be a no-no) Possibly it was ok when I did it or I did not get caught? Good catch tho Hammer I did space out he whole international boundry thing Oops!
All good info but still does not address the original question that had to do with being worried about the airlines loosing the firearm. There is always carry on Laugh . I guess that calling the outfitter and talking about your concerns, seeing what other people that have come across the country via plane have done. Also another possibility (still thinking about shipping) talk to your local gun dealer/shop. See if they have ever shipped a firearm to canada? Since they need to be fed. licenced they should have a handle on shipping laws domestic and foreign. Possibly for a fee you could have them ship. More than likely they will have to ship to a licenced dealer in Canada but if it is possible then your outfitter should have some local connections and take care of you on that end.

Just tossing around some ideas, hope it helps and hope the hubby has a great trip.

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Forgot above the possibility of "lost or Stolen" question.
Not sure how it will be handled on the USA end but can guarantee, without a doubt, that nobody is getting through Canada Customs with a Firearm/Ammo that is not theirs and without the proper paper work.
In fact, I'll bet that the owner doesn't even get his paws on it until cleared(especially at an Airport).
Really, I'd be more concened about looseing a suitcase.

Shipping to a dealer is a NO, NO. He cannot legaly give,sell,lend,whatever Any firearm in his possesion unless the person has a Valid CANADIAN Possession and Acqasition license, and you're not getting one of them being a foreign resident.
Think of all our USA neighbours that come to hunt in Canada every year and never have a problem.
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Hammer1 wrote:
Really, I'd be more concened about looseing a suitcase.

Exactly what I am talking about. A suitcase or guncase. Someone stealing it ? Hammer is right that just is not going to happen.

Since the trip is from TX, I am figguring it is pushing about 3000 miles. More than likely there will be at least 2 stops at different airports to change planes. This is where your baggage has the potential to get accidently left on the first plane or put on the wrong next plane or not make it to the next plane before it takes off. I am a person who flys alot for work and these are real potential situations. Before any airline workers get mad, it is not all the time and they do a great job. Still it does happen.

The airlines are great at getting your luggage back but it can take up to a few days. When you are on a hunting trip for a week into the bush of Newfoundland it will definetly take a few days to find you. In a week long hunting trip no gun for 2 to 3 days makes for a very, very bad trip. If it was me I would be trying to find an alternative so as to avoid the lost gun potential.

Don't think I said anything about Canadians being hard to get along with Think

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Idea: Ask the guide/outfitter if they could have a rifle ready that could be borrowed on a "worst case" basis. There is another permit involved to be 100% legal to borrow a rifle. Things happen, but the purpose of the trip is to have fun and it is better not to worry too much.

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