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First time hunt coming in September

Hello all,

I will be heading out to Wyoming in September for my first every hunt - of any kind - and am having difficulty knowing which liceneses and permits I need to purchase. I will be archery hunting around Buffalo in region 102. I am from Wisconsin and know that I will be paying higher prices, but when I got off the phone today with Wyoming Fish and Game I was more confused than I was before I called them. 

The person that I spoke with told me that I would need a type 6 license, conservation stamp, and archery license. They also told me that the archery season starts on Aug. 15 - Sept 1 and that I could still archery hunt after Sept. 1, but I would be sharing the woods with rifle hunters as well until Sept 30. I could not find anywhere on the website that says archery starts on Aug. 15 and ends Sept. 1, nor did I find anywhere where it says "rifle starts Sept. 1.  She also told me that the type 6 license is only good on private land after Sept. 1. I will not be hunting on private land so I am now unsure as to what I should be purchasing. My hunt dates are Sept. 1 - 5. 

I had planned on waiting until July 17 when the extra doe/fawn tags go on sale on the Wyoming Fish and Game website.

If anyone has any information as to what I should be purchasing please let me know and thank you so much in advance.

 

Sconnie

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Welcome to the forum and the

Welcome to the forum and the confusion of the Wyoming Game and Fish regulations. 

From what I read archery hunting in unit 102 is considered a special archery hunt.  You will see this on page 10 of the Antelope Hunting Regulations.  Regular archery season starts on August 15 and ends on August 31 for the unit.  Then the regular/rifle hunt starts on Sept 1 and goes to Sept 30 but only on private land, and then starting Oct 15 and going to Nov 15 the whole unit is open to both archery and rifle hunters.

So your plans on hunting Sept 1-5 won't work unless you can find a landowner that is willing to let you onto his property.  This usually isn't too hard since a lot of them consider the antelope a nusance. 

You might want to download the brochure and do some more reading.  It also wouldn't hurt to write down your questions and give them another call and see if they can clear them up.  

http://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/imgs/QRDocs/REGULATIONS_CH5_BROCHURE.pdf

There are a few on here that hunt Wyoming regularly and perhaps they may see this in the next couple of days to give you a hand but I would still give the game and fish another call.

 

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I appreciate the reply. I

I appreciate the reply. I think I've got some information to get sorted out here...and quickly!

Thank you for the brochure link, extremely helpful.

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If you find yourself still

If you find yourself still wanting to hunt this unit give the regional office for the game and fish a call and talk to the area biologist.  He just might know of a land owner that will allow you to hunt on their land. 

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All right, I'll give it try

All right, I'll give it try again to post some info for you Sconnie.  I got smacked with the spam filter last time...but I'm done pouting now so here goes.

Critter has you pointed in the right direction.  The regs are clear with respect to when and where you can hunt in unit 102.  You will need to purchase a tag, a conservation stamp, and MAYBE an archery license for the special archery hunt.  If you end up trying to hunt during the regular season (Sept. 1-5) on private land you won't need the archery license.  If you decide you want to try and get out a week or so earlier to hunt the special archery season then you'll need to purchase the archery license.

In wyoming, you can purchase up to 4 reduced price doe/fawn tags per hunter.  And if you still want more you can also purchase another 2 "any antelope" tags.  Tags can be for any unit/area in the state too--you don't have to purchase all of your tags to correspond to the same unit.  That's a truck load of speed goats!

There are also many resources on the WFG websites for public access to private lands.  I'd put the link in for you but that will likely get my post stuck in the spam filter again.  Basically, you want to look for "Private Lands Public Wildlife" under the public access heading in the hunting menu.  When I looked quickly there was already a private landowner listed for doe/fawn hunting in unit 102.  I'd recommend calling them right away.

With respect to private land in Wyoming, we've had good luck just knocking on doors and asking respectfully to hunt the property.  We've had many gracious landowners not only allow us to hunt but actually drive us out to the best spots and coach us on how/when the animals will be moving or present.  For bucks, you should expect to pay a trespass fee (but this isn't usually a big sum, think $100-$200 for an antelope).  Doe/fawn is usually free.  There is also a landowner coupon attached to the tags and the State of Wyoming compensates the landowner for harvests on their property.  It aint much, but most landowners will ask you to leave the coupon for them after your hunt.

As Critter suggested, the regional office in Sheridan should also be able to point you to willing landowners.  Give them a call.  It will be well worth your time.

Last thing I say is be careful with archery hunting during regular season when rifles are out in the field.  Typical techniques like decoys and full camo would be dangerous and setting up/using a blind would also be a little risky in my opinion.  I wouldn't want to be sitting in a blind hoping rifles don't start shooting at the animals I'm waiting on.

I'd try to get out a week earlier and hunt in the special archery season.  If that isn't possible, then I would adjust my expectations to reflect your competition with LOTS of rifle hunters the first week of the season.  You can always throw a rifle in the truck too if you end up hunting in September.  And in Wyoming, you can hunt with smaller .22 caliber centerfire calibers like .223 and .22-250.

Good luck and make some great memories!  We look forward to hunting antelope in Wyoming every year.  Both of my kids will be going with me this year (In fact, I'm not going to have a tag this year.  I'm going to let the kids harvest all of them.) and we'll have a great long weekend together.  Lots of fun hunting without all of the work that's typical for elk and deer.

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I sincerely appreciate all

I sincerely appreciate all the information that you and Critter have offered up. All of the confusion as to where we are going to be hunting has been cleared up with a couple different calls to Wyoming Fish and Game. Although one of the people that I spoke with, albeit very nice, didn't really understand as to what I was asking her. 

Our friend that we are going to see is hunting Elk in 102 (or I believe 35 or 36 on the Elk map at Bud Love) for archery. He thought that myself and my hunting partner that are going out to see him are doing the same. We are not. So we have decided to shift south to unit 20 and am in hopes that when the extras for the doe/fawn come available next Thursday I will be able to score 2 and my hunting partner will be able to score 2 as well. When I spoke with the person at the Sheridan office, she said there was still over 400 available at that time. 

If I have done my research correctly and asked the right questions, we will need: Type 6 license (which is what I'm understanding will be going on sale next Thursday?), conservation stamp, and the archery permit. I'm hoping I've got that correct.

Do you feel the same way about unit 20? That should be far enough away from 102 to not to worry as much about rifles, and be able to hunt from a blind and non-blaze orange camo, hopefully. 

One final question I have is about the camo itself. Since this is my first hunt of any kind, what is a good camo pattern to have for Wyoming or the area that we are hoping to go? Or is a "special" camo just another way to get you to pay extra for something you really don't need?

Again, thank you both for all your infomation. It really helped me understand where I was going wrong.

Sconnie

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The way that I read the regs

The way that I read the regs if you are only archery hunting you are not required to wear any orange even if a rifle hunt is going on but the way that they write their information leaves a lot to be desired.  But if you wanted to have some on hand I would just pick up some in the camo just in case.  I think that you have it right on the licenses that you need. 

 

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Sounds like you're well on

Sounds like you're well on your way to a great hunt this September.  

Unit 20 has lots of tags left for both "any" antelope and doe/fawn.  The either sex tags went on sale yesterday, so the fact there is still some left today tells me you probably won't have too much trouble picking up the doe/fawn tags next week.  I don't think you'll have any trouble with rifle hunters in unit 102.

Another option would be unit 10.  It also has lots of tags still available and for archery, the DeSmet HMA (Hunter Management Area) provides unlimited permission slips.  All you need to do is fill out the app and print off the permission slip.  It's not real big, but look like there is a few small reserviors and maybe even a running creek.  For archery hunting antelope, lots of hunters set up an ambush at the water knowing antelope will need to come get water at least once a day.  There are no HMA's in unit 20.

Rather than purchase 2 tags in one unit, you could purchase 1 tag for each.  That way you could have more potential properties to hunt.  And honestly, if you could bag one antelope with your bow in a 5 day hunt (on your first hunting trip) I think you could cosider that a big success.  Spliting your tags in different units in the same general areas might give you more opportunities.

Orange is not required during the special archery seasons.  Camo pattern isn't real important in my opinion.  You need to be still or unseen.  Even if you are wearing camo the antelope will pick you off by your movement before you even realize you're moving.  The eyesight of an antelope is truly unbelieveable.  And they have a knack for not spooking to hard, just enough to stay 500-600 yards away.  If I was going to do archery, I'd invest in a buck and doe decoy.  I'd set one up on the horizon and use the other to try to move up on the antelope, staying behind the decoy as I moved.  I've never tried this technique so I might just be full of crap on this.  What I can tell you, my kids don't have too much trouble during rifle season making a small profile and slowly approaching the antelope to within a couple hundred yards.  The antelope will keep their distance from the adults, but the smaller kids don't seem to be interpreted as a threat and many times can approach to within shooting distance.

Good luck and put up some pics and story when you get back from your hunt this fall.  The only thing better than reading about a good hunt is actually hunting!

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We were able to secure tags

We were able to secure tags in each 10 and 20 as you suggested to increase our areas to hunt in. I did also fill out the permission slip. You are correct about it not being very big, I'm just wondering what to do since we are not able to bring in even a pop up blind. Guess it's going to be a sit and be extremely still type of hunt in unit 10. I'm just happy we've got a place to go since there is so much private property around Buffalo. I'm thinking about putting an add up on Craigslist asking if there are any property owners willing to let us hunt on in unit 20. I see that there is some state land south of Buffalo or we'll just head to the southwest section of the unit and go for the public land. 

Now it's just a waiting game for the next 6 weeks. Getting really excited! I'm attaching my first sight in session with my crossbow at 25 yards. Hopefully I'll perform as well when under pressure. And I for sure will post any good pictures if we are lucky enough to bag a goat. 

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You're going to have a great

You're going to have a great hunt.  Antelope hunting is the funnest trip the kids and I do each year.  We don't have to get up too early (that might be different for an archer), and don't have to put in a bunch of miles on foot locating the game.  We just drive around in our hunting area and spot the goats from a fair distance then plan our stalk/approach.  Lots of animals all day long keeps the kids engaged and it never turns into a death march.  

Even with all of the private land you'll be able to find willing landowners.  In Colorado the landowners are not as easy to get permission from.  We've been turned down in Wyoming, but we've been given permission more often than not when we just drove up to the house and asked.  Having kids in tow probably doesn't hurt too much either.

I've never hunted archery in Wyoming and I assume you've already checked the regs on crossbows.  If not, I'd double check before heading out just to make sure you're legal.  Colorado doesn't consider a crossbow legal during archery seasons--it is legal during rifle season though.

Good luck!

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Just wanted to stop by and

Just wanted to stop by and post a few pictures from our trip. It was amazing! We enjoyed pretty great weather and a successful hunt. Next year I believe we are going to give Mule Deer a try. Thanks again for all those who gave me help.

 

Sconnie

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