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Feds want to eradicate our pigs!!

:lol:  They are kidding themselves if they think they can do it.  the population is 500-1000 animals, spread over hundreds of thousands of the toughest acres you could imagine.  They will not find them all, let alone kill them all.  Traps will only work so much, then the pigs get smart.  Also, the last 2 years have been very wet here, so there is tons of food out there.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/01/forest-service-and-blm-plan-exterminate-countys-wi/

 

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While I am not a biologist I

While I am not a biologist I remember reading books on bison, elk, white tail, mule deer, and antelope and what their populations were in the early 1800's.  The men that came out west to hunt them said the same thing, "there are more animals than one man could shoot in ten lifetimes" was a popular quote from that time.  Then before they knew it there were very few of the above animals left on the prairre not to mention in the hills.  The market hunters had done their job in feeding thousands at the expense of the native animals. 

So I personally believe that if the effort is put forth from one ocean to the other the wild pig population would meet the same fate over time.  The big problem is that there are land owners that are making big bucks off of these animals and will refuse to allow their eradication.  These are the same land owners that are complaining that the pigs are destroying their property but want to charge you $500.00 to come onto their property to shoot them. 

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Well Critter, I am going to

Well Critter, I am going to say yes and no.

The bison only exist in an area where they essentially have no cover.  They were easy pickings.  Elk and deer, well, they could be hit pretty hard because of their size and visibility, but I believe that there would always be pockets of them that would survive.

Now a pig, and the terrain they inhabit out here, that is a big difference.  When i talk about "tough country", I am not talking a wooded draw, or just some thick bushes.  I am talking about 1000 foot canyons, with brush so thick you take an hour to move 10 feet.  Some of the brush has not burned in over 50 years.  You can go 15 minutes from the 3 million people in the greater San diego area, and be in some of the toughest terrain I have ever seen.  And, that's been my job for 15 years, chasing people through this terrain.  If the people can avoid us, I can't imagine what pigs will be able to do.

Now, the pigs can move through there just fine, because they are low to the ground.  Then, you have the problem of locating them.  You can't take out something you can't find.  By the time they pop up in "huntable" places, they will already have a population that is out of control. 

I do agree though that the ranches and private land owners are the biggest roadblock. There are big $$$$ in pig hunting here in CA.

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What I was getting at is if

What I was getting at is if they want to get rid if the pigs they can get rid of the pigs.  Give me a night vision scope and headgear and alow me to hunt 24/7 with no limit to how many I can shoot and it just may suprise you on just how many I could get rid of in a weeks time. 

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Maybe I am being naive, but

Maybe I am being naive, but even with 20 people running around with night vision, hunting at night, they will not get all the pigs.  The area is too large, and dense, and there are not enough pigs yet.  They can easily hide here.  It's not like they are spilling over into people lawns and golf courses(Yet), and by the time they get to that level, it will be too late.

I hear what you're saying, but I think it's an impossible task......

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I agree that most of the hype

I agree that most of the hype and tv shows out now are nothing more than free advertising for the ranches that conduct hog hunts. I have hunted a few times but the more everyone learns about the huge problems from watching these shows the more I see the price of hunting them go up. There are a few ranches that really want them gone but for many it is a cash crop the continues to deliver big profits.

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wild hogs

I don't know a flippin' thing about California hogs. That being said, I doubt they vary very much at all from the ones I've hunted in S.C., and Georgia for several years. Hogs can make a smart old whitetail buck look dumb. Hogs are right up there in the top three smartest mammals after the homo sapien. Look closely at the size of the hogs you see harvested most often.

They are normally 3-15 month old hogs. A hog will weigh about 100 pounds at one year of age, given a decent food supply and they normally will move to wherever that might be, being nomadic in nature. A hog, not unlike a deer, will grow to be 6-8 years old in the wild. By the time they are 2 years old they have smartened up a great deal  and hunting a fair chase, mature hog of 250-400 pounds can be an exercise in futility.

They will live places that even the thought of going will make your skin crawl (and if you do go there, it likely will be crawling lol )  In most areas they have no natural enemies or predators once they reach about 6 months old. Look at a 300-400 pound boar closely and then try to convince me they would even be afraid of a typical black bear.

I do not see sport hunters capable of ever eradicating wild hogs in our nation. If states are smart, they will open up hunting 24/7/365 and simply require a hunting license with no tag fees IF they are serious about wanting to control them. By nine months of age a female hog is capable of breeding and producing a littler of 6-10 piglets. And then, she will do it two or three times a year, every year  after that. FTFM (figure the freakin' math...lol)  ::huh:  

I enjoy the heck out of hog hunting and now prefer it over deer hunting. I'm about one generation early in seeing where I live overrun with them, but they are all but at our doorstep here in north central Tennessee. We have lots of water here, lots of agriculture and lots of open land still. Recipe for hog explosion!!

 

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tndeerhunter Your right about

tndeerhunter

Your right about that, Those old boar are very smart! The females will tend to hang out together in family herds and them old boars and loaners and tuff to hunt!!!

Pig hunting in CA has no season and is unlimited but they do charge $20 for each pig.

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